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The Hobelbank is made for planing

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The Hobelbank is made for planing

Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Woodworking benches were made for planing, not sawing. The contemporary German term for a woodworker's workbench remains Hobelbank, or planing bench. For a right handed woodworker using a bench vise to secure a workpiece for edge jointing, the most comfortable place to position it is on the left side.

For face jointing, a board would have been secured with a bench hook. It was not until the introduction of bench stops and dogs that the tail vice was introduced on the right side of the bench. Still sawing on you workbench can be an awkward task.

Would anyone like to share pictures, plans or thoughts regarding building a saw bench? Inquiring minds....

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Jonathan Peck - N.Y.

>Should mention that I am paraphrasing from an article in FWW no. 162 April 2003. Also where I said bench hook, please read hold fast.

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Saw bench

Dean Burke - Yakima, WA

>I believe Pam made one of these a year or two ago, after Kingshott. Also, Chuck Vance made one a year before that of stacked 2x4's on small trestle feet. Check the archives.

Dean

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joel

>The best saw bench I have ever used, and the one I continue to use is a double level workmate with the legs folded in so you are at the lower level. I think it was designed to be a saw bench at this height. for long ripping work I hold the wood down with my knee and saw from one end, for shorter work I saw between the jaws.

Works like a charm

and folds up when I don't need it.

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Double level workmate?

Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine

>Can't picure what you're refering to Joel. got a picture or a link for it? sounds kinda interesting. Does it wiggle and wobble in true workmutt fashion while sawing?

Todd O.

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Wooden Saw Bench

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, Florida

>Here is an image of one that I found on the net:


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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>Many models of workmutt have four extendable/colapsible legs. If you fold them into the base, you lose several inches of height, but also lose the foot pads. I never met a workmutt that didn't wobble, or even try to get up and walk away from the work, in either mode, under what I consider reasonable hand tool woodworking forces. Also, though the jaw positions appear to be very flexible, I often have a very difficult time configuring it to grip whatever it is I'm working on. They are a lot heavier and less flexible than a couple of sawhorses and three or four wooden handscrews.

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joel

>when I have time later I will dig up a picture. It's what I use. When you fold in the bottom legs there is a second set of rubber feet that the workmate rides on. I don't actually clamp anything in the workmate. I saw off the end, or between the open halfs.

one caveate: my workmate is 23 years old (I got in the employee store when I worked at B+D) I have no idea if the ones they make today are study. My is built like a tank and I can't imagine a better saw bench. (the lower height station I believe was designed for exactly this application)

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Mike G.

>I have an old one, too. It's very heavy, but to do any hand planing on it, you...or I...have to keep one foot on the lower shelf to keep it in one place. I just recently replaced the old Part. Board tops with some 7 ply oak plywood. It still does a half-way decent job of holding stuff while working.

Mike G.

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joel

>I can't find my photos so I will try to take more. I don't use it for planing only sawing and hold the work down with my knee.

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Steve Kubien

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Steve Kubien

>I'm with William. Sawhorses and clamps/handscrews work well enough for me. There was an article in FWW a few issues back where 3 types of horses were detailed. I made a pair of the medium ones and I haven't touched my workmutt since.

Steve Kubien

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Sawing Bench Example *PICS*

Paul Alt on Cape Cod

>Jonathan,

You are right that traditional woodworking benches are, at best, awkward for sawing wood. I concluded that the biggest single impediment to hand sawing wood is the lack of a convenient way to hold the wood in place while providing both a comfortable stance and a good view to do the sawing. Having a good saw or good technique is of secondary importance, in my opinion, to having a good sawing bench. Sharp saws and appropriate technique are good things to be sure, but without the bench you are working at a disadvantage.

Below are some photos of the sawing �bench� I developed a while back when I was keen on doing unplugged work. I present it more as a starting point for you thinking about a solution rather than as THE solution for hand sawing. I found that the dimensions of the projects on which one works have a big effect on the type of bench to use for sawing. The one shown here is fine for most cabinetwork, but other solutions are better for working on things like beds and large entertainment centers, or at the other extreme, for working on fractional-scale models or small wooden parts.

The bench has a right triangular shape for rigidity and is about 6 ft. high. The working surface consists of two coplanar 4x4 beams parallel to each other, separated by 3-1/2�, and oriented about 20 degrees off vertical. Your degrees may vary depending on your height and the type saw used.



In a ripping operation a board is placed on a stop, clamped to the beams, and then sawn, as the sawyer stands nearly upright and comfortable.



An attachment, shown hanging from the bench, allows you to hold long pieces for cross cutting.



There is an array of dog holes in the beams whose spacing matches that of the holes in my woodworking bench, allowing the shared use of numerous jigs. At the top of the bench are adjustable lights that allow the cut line to be easily seen - I am aware of the irony of using electrical lights for a device designed to saw wood without the aid of electricity. If the line becomes obscured by saw dust during cutting (and it will) a straw in the mouth of the sawyer allows it to be easily cleared with a small puff of air.

For those to whom such things matter, this bench is easily constructed using only hand tools.

Paul

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Christof Hartge

>Hello Paul,

thanks for sharing these pics of your sawing bench. This energizes much by previous thougts about making such a bench.

Greetings, Christof.

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Christof, Scott: Glad you enjoyed! 

Paul Alt on Cape Cod

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