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Saw questions...

Christopher Fitch @ Memphis

>Hey all,

I have some meandering saw questions...

I have read (here I believe) that Japanese Saws are suited more for softwoods and Western Saws are more suited for hardwoods. If true, is there enough difference in performance to merit having both? (Besides the obvious reason of just having more tools)

In general, excluding larger saws (D-8 types), what Western saws could one own and have all they need? The usual types are dovetail saws, carcass saws, and tenon saws, all of which can be either rip or crosscut.

Would say, two tenon saws, one rip and one crosscut, be enough for joinery needs? Or is there a reason to have tenon saws and dovetail saws?

just curious!

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David Miller from Iowa

>Can't speak to the Western vs. Japanese question. Plus a lot of it is preference and the term joinery covers a lot of ground. Personally, I would say I "need" the two tenon saws plus the dovetail. Although I did a lot of joinery with just one tenon saw filed crosscut back when all the money went for the babies needs.

Good luck. David

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Larry Marshall

>The "Japanese saws are for softwoods" mantra comes from the fact that most of the inexpensive Dozuki's on the market feature large, pointy teeth that are better suited for softwoods. But there are also dozuki that are cut for hardwoods. The Lee Valley "rip" dozuki is a case in point but there are others. They tend to cost more though - in the same price range as a western backsaw.

Cheers --- Larry

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Manny

>You can use a Japanese saw for cutting hardwoods. I do it all the time. However, there are some imports that are designated as "hardwood" saws. These usually have shorter teeth and the tooth angle is just a bit different. It's my belief they shorten the teeth to reduce the chance of breaking them off by first time Japanese saw users or users that are still honing their technique.

The key is letting the saw do the work, don't exert a lot of downward pressure and finding the right cutting angle. This was all discussed in an earlier thread, so you may want to do a search. You'll find some good info from various Japanese tools users that frequent this forum.

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>I've never had any problem cutting hardwoods with Japanese saws, hand made or machine made. The only time I broke a couple was when I was trying to resaw pine 2x4's, got carried away with trying to make it go faster, put too much stress on the saws.

Pam

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