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Steve Kubien

Poor planning or divine insight?

Steve Kubien

>Good morning folks,

I am at the beginning phases of a major shop re-organization. Last night while tidying up, I found one of several pads of graph paper with sketches and measurements on it. This particular page had the rough dimensions for a tool cabinet to house my current (at the time) arsenal with some room for expansion.

The planes would be stored vertical with their soles against the backboard with chisels to the right of them (I left room for a total of 4 planes and 6 chisels). Assorted hammers/mallets would be below this along with my 3 Japanese saws, one brace, one eggbeater and a few bits. Total dimensions....24" high, 34" wide.

Now consider that....

-I did not allow for a jointer (I now have a #7 with a Knight razee jointer on the way),

-one smoother? (ya, right),

-I now have almost 20 chisels of various types and sizes,

-my drilling selection has expanded to 4 braces and 3 eggbeaters,

-I never allowed for rules, squares, marking gauges or knifes,

-I am addicted to a certain brand of wood planes from the Portland Oregon area,

-I want to try making some tools for myself (scrub, bowsaw, irons etc),

-I allowed for ZERO western style saws. This aspect of my arsenal now includes 4 crosscut and 4 rip saws, 2 tenon saws, 2 dovetail saws and a frame saw).

So, was I a victim of poor planning or divine insight? I never got to build this 'dream cabinet'. I am now planning a new cabinet which will be large enough so as to require a building permit.

Ahhhh, how things change when you slide down the slippery slope....

Amused in Ajax..

Steve Kubien

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Bright side one less round tuit! You just got lucky it won't happem again.

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Vic P

>Sounds like you have to many tools, you could send some down this way to relieve yourself of the torment.

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Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>Well Steve, as a friend I would make the note that while sometimes things work out, those of us who depend on it happening usually catch it in the chops. Having said that, you could always follow the advice of the power tool folks about shop planning which is roughly speaking: calculate your needs....then multiply by 2. I didn't follow this advice for my plane till and it is already full and undersized by about 30%. You wouldn't happen to know a way I could clone a twin for it would you? We won't even get into where I'm going to put some of the other stuff that's stuffed in boxes, tool chests, and corners of the shop. Reality says that "stuff" will expand to fill the space available. So maybe if you want some more tools you should build more space for them. ;-)

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Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>Well Steve, as a friend I would make the note that while sometimes things work out, those of us who depend on it happening usually catch it in the chops. Having said that, you could always follow the advice of the power tool folks about shop planning which is roughly speaking: calculate your needs....then multiply by 2. I didn't follow this advice for my plane till and it is already full and undersized by about 30%. You wouldn't happen to know a way I could clone a twin for it would you? We won't even get into where I'm going to put some of the other stuff that's stuffed in boxes, tool chests, and corners of the shop. Reality says that "stuff" will expand to fill the space available. So maybe if you want some more tools you should build more space for them. ;-))

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William R. Duffield on the Cohansey

>At least, you already know exactly how to build the second one, any questions on major dimensions or scantlings are answered immediately, efficiency of construction goes way up, and then you will have a matched pair. Even better, given the additional foresight you have gained by the experience, now you could build two more, and gain additional efficiencies of scale. There's nothing better than "measure once, cut twice" :^), and then Chester Tool Works would have another fine, hand crafted, shop tested line of tills to add to its catalog. Anyway, you don't want to make them too big, or they start requiring climbing and stooping, or they start blocking your windows, or the walls can't support them, and they fall on you. These might not be problems in Steve Knight's shop, but I know how much you guys in the Frozen Northland value whatever little rays of sunshine you can coax into your working environment. For those of us who value a rural environment, the view should not be blocked by tools.

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Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>I'm pretty fortunate Sir William. My bench room has 2 double hung windows complete with curtains provided by SWMBO to keep prying eyes from seeing the loot and to protect against the glare from the due south sun which shine in most of the day. Not bad for a basement shop methinks. The machine room also has 2 windows, but the curtains seldom get opened and for that matter the room (excepting the lathe and bandsaw) seldom gets used.

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Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine

>I thnk you're just as well off Steve that you didn't build the first one. I recently got addicted to saws, so I built a cabinet to hold them plus room for a few more. Once all the saws I had where in it, I was dismayed that I had built it to accomodate so many. Now, several months later I'm dismayed that I built it so small. Now my latest grand scheme is to remove it all together and just building a open rack mounted to the plywood that I lined my walls with to hold them. Coarse I'll have to build a rack of some type to hold all the braces that I have hanging on the sides of the saw cabinet as well.

Brother, you just can't win when it comes to storage, but I'd rather fight a losing, uphill battle than no battle at all I guess.

Todd O.

Todd O.

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Disagree

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Stuff expands to overflow the space available. Filling it is only a preliminary stage.

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Steve Kubien

Don't even get me started on...

Steve Kubien

>expanding saws arsenals! I built a simple till for my saws. It's already too small. Alas, I think I need to stream-line some of the crapola in the shop, but not the tools! As I said a reorganization is underway. Perhaps I will be enlightened on how to dehydrate everything, keep it all in prescription bottles and just add water whenever I need something.

Regards,

Steve Kubien

P.S. Can you dehydrate a tablesaw?

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Be carefull...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I was trying to do a "complete" tool cabinet. It got way too big, heavy and unruly.

Now I'm splitting them up:

1. Plane rack

2. Saw till

3. Drill rack

4. Tool box (this will contain chisles, layout and marking tools, spokeshaves, etc.)

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