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Bad Karma with *PICS*

WoodburnBob

>Everyone understands what happened here. I did it this morning while shaking shavings out of the mouth...managing to shake the plane out of my hand. Four feet to the concrete floor is all it took.


It was a favorite #4 I'd hand scraped flat a couple years ago. I also scrape fitted the frog bosses. Wasn't much to look at really, and it had its flaws and imperfections, but it was one of my first.


I used it this morning to try out the idea of using a plane as a scraper. Having a Tormek it was a simple matter of putting a 35 degree bevel on a spare blade and then putting a 60 back bevel on the face. It worked very well as a scaper...before I flipped it to the ground. This venerable type 11 has managed to avoid slobs like me for 100 years. The least I could do was pick up some of the scraped shavings, set them gently in the old boy's mouth, confess my crime and take a couple photos for posterity. I feel utterly ashamed.


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Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine

>Oh my gosh Bob that is just horrible, horrible, horrible. :~( I can actually feel your pain. Bloody A 'ell that really bites. Sonofabit er, er biscuit that really is a tear jerker for sure.

Bob, I just don't know what to say to bring you and comfort other than to let you know your not the only butter fingered buffoon here. You can stand in ranks with Sandor and I. Matter of fact I think until somebody "outdoes you" I'll make you the Commanding Officier of the Butter-fingered Buffoon Brigade.

On the bright side it does appear to be a fairly tight crack, and should be easily repaired, and with patience the crack would be almost invisible. Coarse you'll know what you done, but bro, some times we gotta realize that $hit happens and push on. As Moses would say it's just a battle scar for the old war horse. Still hurts tho doesen't it.

Todd O.

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Tom Huett

>Did you mean to do it? No. Will you be more careful next time? Yes. Could it have been worse? Yes, you could have dropped it on your foot and broke a bone. All material things eventually go away.

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Repaired Karma with brown paper and string

John, NY

>Now i've seen some ugly, ugly, ugly repairs on those 'prototype' ebay planes but is it really possible to repair something like this? What would it cost?[Ballpark] Is it going to look as bad as those ebay prototypes?

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Well......

Todd Hughes

>it looks like you found a nice Tote, Front knob, Blade, Lever Cap, and frog to put on that next plane you find missing them.....always a silver lining eh?......Todd

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Funny thing...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>...I got a #7C this week, and while piddling with it, shaking out shavings, I thought, "Hmmm - wonder how easy it'd be to drop at this point?" Guess I know now. Sorry to hear it.

Now, you want to accumulate some good karma, I know someone you could be sending that tote to... ;)

Uh, oh, I think I just felt my karma slip.

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>Yah fix it take some brass plates and rivit them to the sides call it an outfill or somthing. You could braze it or weld it My favorite #5 was welded but I hit a knoght and worked it to hard and rebroke the weld. through it in a box with some POS planes and parts and got $35 at an auction? what the heck do people think when the pay that much?

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Rod Cole

>Major bummer and sorry to hear of your accident.

But, I'm going to give that scraper idea a try!

- Rod Cole

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>Bob if you can find a welding shop that has a oven to heat the body up then weld and back into the oven and slowly cooled is should be as good as new.

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Alan Hamilton

>Bob,

I know nothing really helps at a time like this, but we all stand with you.

My sincere condolences for your loss.

When are the services?

Alan

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I know your pain...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I had a similar run in with a 603. It' just broke off the laterial adjuster though. I found a frog for it, it's better now. How about braizing it? I feel your pain, Scott who realy likes type 11 Stanleys.

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Just make darn sure they know how to prevent it from warping. My #10-1/2 was welded twice, the second time by my uncle to resolve the out-of-plane sole problem created the first time. The first welder, who meant well but was young and dumb, managed to weld it so that the sole in front of the mouth was at about 5 degrees side to side to the sole behind the mouth.

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>I can understand wanting to fix it, since it's a favorite plane, and I can understand how you feel about having done it, as I have also done some stuff that afterwards made me wonder just why I wasn't more careful, but hindsight is 20/20. I wouldn't bother welding and messing around with a fairly common plane body; I have seen these in great shape trying to be sold for $4 at tool meets, and you can probably get a slightly rusty body off ebay for less than $10. You'd probably have to re-flatten the sole to your specs, but I have stopped messing around with planes that work well; in other words, if the plane works great I'm not going to spend a few days trying to get a "flat sole". I would get a new body and hang the old body somewhere for a reminder. I also have rubber mats at my bench so the tools don't fall on the cement ;) I did drop a plane the other week, and fortunately had no damage.

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Rubber Mats.......

Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine

>Sure are life, er, er tool savers. I have a cheapo rubber mat at my work bench that came from a Publix cashiers station. Sure saved me from uttering some naughty words when I dropped my favorite 220 block plane last week.

Bob, take heart, you probably wasn't the first fellow to drop this plane, but unfortunatly you was the first have it break. :~(

You got some good idea for repair, or at least attempted repair, and if like worse comes to worse, like Todd H. says you've got plenty of spare parts to rescue another plane or two, or three.

I'd think that Silver Soldering would be the way to go, tho I think this method will discolor the cheeks from the heat required. With proper heat sinks that could be greatly eliminated tho.

Todd O.

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