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veritas marking gauge

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>To micro-adjust or not.

I have permission granted from loml to go spend some money on tools... Ive been looking at the veritas gauges for some time. But does one "need", or have particular use of, the micro feature? If you have the non-micro gauge, do you feel any need for this fine adjustment?

Jr

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Bruce, a MN galoot

>I have the LV non-micro adjusting marking gauge. I suppose the micro-adjust version might be a smidge easier, but I'm not sure about that. The one I have works fine, and it is easy enough to move the gauge just a smidgeon with my fingers. I guess I've never seen the reason to upgrade.

Bruce

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Tim Leo

>I have the non-micro adjust marking gage, and I have no problem getting it set exactly where it needs to be. I don't see the need for the micro adjust.

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Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>"it is easy enough to move the gauge just a smidgeon with my fingers."

Is this due to the o-ring? Im going to buy from dick so I cant play around with it.. Trying to imagine how the friction feels... will it stay in place while tightening the nut, or does it tend to shift a little?

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Rob Lee

>Jonathan -

My vote is....not. No graduations either.

Nothing wrong with either - it's just that for most people they're not necessary...the o-ring makes adjustment a snap.

Rob

(whose also really likes Japanese gauges)

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>I must dissagree a little I have the ungraduated one by LV and it woks fine no problems Thanks Secret Santa! And I have an old GOODALL PRATT that is graduated and find that I like the graduations some of the time. I also like the fact that it is hexagon instead of round no chance of it rolling off the bench. I have even thought about grinding one flat spot on the LV but it has that pretty brass ring.

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hey Rob..

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>... have you read your mail? I guess you are whacked with correspondance again...

Jr

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Just ordered

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>the non-micro version... I leaned towards this, and your opinions mostly pointed there, too. As to the graduations, since Im Swedish I work with centimetres and millimetres I dont think I would have so much use of it. But one could always make a setting gauge where the knife would butt up against fixed stops, to be able to set frequently used measurements easily and dead on. Cant really think of any need though... its getting late here aswell =)

Jr

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Cast another vote

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>For the plain ol' vanilla flavored one. Had it for years no problems with it or adjusting the beast.

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GolfSteve in Calgary

>I vote for the microadjust type - not because of the microadjust (which I really like on the Tite-Mark, but don't really like on the Veritas), but because the cutting blade is flat on the end (no screw sticking out), and it can be recessed into the head. This is a nicer design that also lets you use the marking gauge as a depth gauge.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

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Jim in Burlington Ontario

>When they first came out with the standard and I got to use the titemark the LV one got taken back. I don't need the graduations but the micro adjust feature is very nice for those of us with shaky hands and poor eyesight.

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Me Too

Alan Hamilton

>Jonathan,

Another nay.

I have a plain-Jane and no reason to spend more on yet another gauge.

When the Titemark first came out I was intrigued by the idea, but I couldn't really see where it would be useful. When I mark stock it seems I almost always mark it to the needed measure, plus a little or minus a little, a smidge, a hair, a tick, the thickness of aluminum foil, or whatever. I find I rarely--if ever--need something EXACTLY so thick or wide or...

I also thought that the tool is capable of finer measures than wood can maintain. Seasonal changes in dimension across the grain surely is greater than the precision of the gauge. I may mark something precisely today, but when I next return to it the wood could have expanded or contracted so the mark on the wood isn't the same distance as when I first marked it.

Again, I'll go along with the manufacturer and give it a thumbs down. I just don't see the reason for it.

Alan

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Bruce, a MN galoot

>It's easy to adjust because of the O-ring, which holds the fence in position easily while tightening the set screw.

I'm sure the adjustable version is an improvement, but the original is so good I just saw no reason to upgrade.

Bruce

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Rob Lee

>Jim -

My first draft said something akin to what you just did - I just couldn't find a "PC" way to say it...

Cheers -

Rob

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Just one marking gauge??

Jim Cosgrove

>During the course of a project, I find I like to use several marking gauges--each recording a different dimension. For example, one for tenon shoulders, another for the cheeks, etc. I won't confess to exactly how many I have, but I will say that in my tool chest you will find the Veritas original (no graduations, no micro adjust), the Veritas with micro adjust, and the Tite-Mark. For many tasks, the Veritas original is the one I grab. However, for precise joinery I do like the Tite-Mark a lot. The difference between a tight and loose joint is only a few thousands of an inch and the Tite-Mark helps me reach that precision just a bit easier and faster. I do not care for, or use, my Veritas micro adjust. Unless the collet is really tight, the whole assembly can slip. That pretty much makes it worthless for me. (Unfortunately I've had it too long to send it back.) I'm a big fan of Lee Valley and nearly all Veritas products--just not this one. I'd suggest trying the original Veritas gauge--but buy at least two!

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I agree - yes for micro-adjust

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

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My take on it

HC Sakman

>Veritas Marking Gauge w/ Micro-Adj. is not really necessary. The original version (and the M-Adj.) both have that rubber (I assume) O-ring in between the brass face and aluminium body of the head, which prevents the rod sliding all over the place when the thumbscrew is loosened for re-positioning the head. That O-ring is the key element in this tool. In both versions, one can hold the rod in palm and micro adjust the head by simply sliding the head using thumb and/or index finger. Therefore, micro-adj. addition to this tool improved nothing much. Recessed cutter area in the head and flush-mount screw to secure the cutter are the real improvements. This way, it functions brilliantly as a depth gauge and taking precise measurements of tenon shoulders and cheeks.

Chico...

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Modifying?

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>What Ive seen from the photos is a round-head screw holding the knife, which has a non-countersunk(hows that for lack of english) hole through it. So there Im thinking maybe a flush-mount srew would improve? But then how do you easily countersink the knife?

Can the gauge be retrofitted with the knife & screw from the micro-gauge?

Jr

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I'd call it "Upgrading"

HC Sakman

>You can order the new replacement cutter from LV (comes with the screw, I believe) and simply take the old one off and put the new one on.

That's it.

Chico...

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Re: I'd call it "Upgrading" - language problems

Jonathan Ronnow, Sweden

>Well, you know us swedes dont always find the best word for things ...=) That can really be annoying sometimes, when you know that there is a better/more correct word, but since you cant recall it you have to refrase a whole scentense. Just because you dont know the word....

Will probably do the upgrade.... =)

Jr

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