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Verturing into hand tools more, Need some thoughts

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Verturing into hand tools more, Need some thoughts

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago - south burbs

>Ok, first I have a garage full of Power tools I know, I know I was swayed buy the Dark powers of the evil emperor "Norm".

I find myself in need of more hand tools as they offer unique abilities my Corded Toy's can not. I'm not giving up my power toy's. I don't have the time to learn to flatten a board out by hand but I do want to learn to use a smoothing plane, hand scrapers. etc...

so my first project is to get the tools and keep them organized. something I lack currently :)

I going to go about this in a specific manner. I find myself doing more home remodeling than woodworking as of late. so that bring me to my first "wants" in hand tools.

I can cut perfect 45's on my TS, CMS etc. the problem is nothing is close to square in my home.

I want to design a tool box around hand tools that can be used for finishing off trim work.

I need to gather a good list of tools I need and a decent toolbox design.

so help me out guys.

I know that I want to incorporate features in the box that pertain to portability. I want to be able to work right near the task to final fit the pieces.

tools:

some hands saws ?

coping saw?

gages - bevel. profile?

Plane for shooting ?

files and rasps

chisels

hand scrapers

Miter saw

ToolBox:

I would like to incorporate a shooting board into the design somehow.

I want it to be something that I can carry so it will only serve to hold the tools and be strong enough to use a support when cutting or shooting( if that is a word).

right now I considering using a bottom drawer space or size the depth of all the drawers 2" less than the box and make a well in the back to store it vertically.

I would really appreciate all the input you guy's(girls) can offer as to what tools and Box ideas.

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Re: Verturing into hand tools more, Need some thou

Charles

>Take a look at "THE TOOLBOX BOOK" by Jim Tolpin. It will answer most if not all of your questiions. Some of the FWW Design books have shown some great toolboxes. A lot of them have come from students at the North Bennet Street School, I think in Boston. Take your time and create something your grandchildren will appreciate. Use some pretty wood, you will not use a whole lot of it in building a toolbox.

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Roy from Cincy

>For some great discussion of mitering boards, mitering boxes and shooting boards, you can't do better than "The Handyman's Book" by Paul Hasluck, published by 10 speed press. It is an old book on traditional work methods from the turn of the (previous) century, republished.

From your description of your intents, I can picture a miter shooter built into the top of your tool chest. With a little bit of thought, you could make it into an adjustable miter shooter to use on odd angles.

Of course you realize that this start down the slippery slope into the Neanderzone can have only one result. One day you will walk into your shop and look at all that Normite sacrilege and realize the eNormity of it all. You'll fall down to your knees and cry "Oh, Lord Roy of Underhill, I have sinned!"

Best of luck, Pilgrim

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Eric Hedberg

>"Choosing and Using Hand Tools" by Andy Rae is a good introduction to hand tools. It covers all the basics of a good tool set and includes some of the specialties. Also, if you haven't already, get catalogs from Lee Valley, Highland Hardware, and www.toolsforwoodworking.com. They will get you familiar with whats available in the market. The archives at WoodCentral contain discussions about which "brand is best" when you start to make choices. Good luck!

Eric

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Re: I'm going to think outside the box.

Ernie Miller Topeka

>If you intent is to have a box just for finish work then you might want to design it so it stands on end with fold down legs for stability when in use so you are not bending over to do you work but when it is in storage or tarvil it sits normal. you also might want to include a small miter box like a Stanley 50 cast iron that way you bild some muscles why you are at it. I like the idea of an adjustable miter shooting board but it may be hard to design is such a small area but it can be done. you will also want to include a finish hammer screw drivers nail sets and some colored putty for nail holes and probably pliers to you kit. Both my dad and grand dad were finish carpenters and the only plane they carried to the site wer a 60 1/2 block plane most trim can be trimed by hand to fit tight as it is not fine furnature so you thought might be over the top a little. Sure you aren't going to give up you power tools any time soom but you will be neglecting them more and more every day. And I would be willing to bet lunch that in the next three years that you will be planing a board by hand for some small project just to pruve you can do it. I eat small lunches so it shouldn't set you back more than $5-7

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Re: Verturing into hand tools more, Need some thou *LINK*

Tim Caley - North Little Rock

>Check out Bob Keyes website from the link below. Click on the link then scroll to the bottom of the page and see if this is what you had in mind.


http://www.terraclavis.com/bws/toolstorage.htm

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Angelo in Cornwall, NY

>Joe, I was in the same boat awhile back and came up with a box that will hold just about all of my trim tools, mostly had tools. The contents include: Small back saw, 22" 11tpi x-cut, chisel set, 9 1/2 block plane, rasps, screwdrivers, yankee and normal, push drill, hammer, nail sets, coping saw, bevel gauge, square, compass, nail puller, small trim prybars, pliers, laser level, stud sensor, folding extension rule, tape measure, small file, and an awl, I think. I will try and post a pic and a more complete list when I get home. Miter box travels seperate from the box. For lots of trim, I use a power miter saw and compressor/nail guns as well.

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Thanks Guys

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago - south burbs

>Thanks guy's.

That was some helpful info. I think for now I build a toolbax from one of the books mentioned, get more hand tools and see what happens.

I don't for see going unplugged but I can see a lot more Hand tools in my future.

the problem with Power tools is you have to part mechanic, part machinest sometimes to set them up. I'm all for routine maintenence but try to re-align the guts of TS are impossible for the non mechanically inclined.

I like working with wood and designing things. I hate spending a week tunning up the power tools so I don't kill myself. who ever designed a contractor table saw should suffer in some slow painful way.

I'm not ready to be Roy Underhill yet nor do I wish to be a Norm Abraham. maybe a Norm Underhill ?

later.

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Re: Thanks Guys

Alan Hamilton

>Joe,

Make yourself a very, very LARGE tool box. The bigger the better.

See, it is a slippery slope for sure. You're going to need all that space eventually.

Also, you can show who holds the power of the purse how very, awfully empty your tool chest is. This accomplishes two very important things: first, that extra space gives the illusion that you don't have very many tools; so it's easier to justify buying more tools--maybe even enough to fill up the chest. Second, with all those new tools you can start on an even bigger and better tool chest (see the first reason).

But do put both tool chests on wheels. That way you may be able to hide one.

Alan

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Re: Thanks Guys

Joe Piotrowski - Chicago - south burbs

>sneaky, very sneaky. I like it. Big it is!

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Mine is 12'X14' and to small

Ernie Miller topeka

>no matter what you do make a big tool box, I'm having to rearange to make room for new tools.

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