Saw Till

Re: Saw Till *LINK*

Hank Knight

>Richard, there's a nice set of plans for a till at this link:


http://www.shavings.net/sawtill.html

OOPS!

Hank Knight

>Sorry, I should have noticed the link in your post is the same. There were some nice photos of saw tills on this forum a week or so ago. I don't think there were any plans though.

Re: Saw Till

Michael-San Francisco

>Having just built a very bare bones one myself, I'd suggest you also look at Popular Woodworking, Oct, 2000, the one with Roy Underhill's treadle lathe on the cover. Theres' a nice saw till in there, and

I think its American Woodworker, from '93, has a simple till, plywood and dowels.

Email off list with a snail mail address and I can send you copies of both plans.

MS

Saw Till Warning

Doug Reynolds

>Richard: I built the Galoot till. A few changes I would suggest you make. The right side is where I tried to put my back saws but, they are too long and will not fit under the shelf. I would suggest raising the shelf to accept your back saws and put the straight-handled dovetail saws above the shelf. Also, my handle rest is too short so, unless I put saw teeth out, the saws tilt out of the till and head for the floor. Experiment with angle of tilt and handles of various sizes. I should have made mine about an inch taller. The till filled up too fast so I might have to make another.

Re: Saw Till Warning

Ted Shuck

>I built this saw till about 1 1/2 years ago, and agree with everything that Doug says. I have my saws with the teeth pointing out. I managed to see how things were going to work out with the backsaws and finagled things so that I can get 12" backsaws under the division and longer and shorter ones above it. I would make many minor changes in geometry for my next one, so lay things out and plan ahead.

One thing that should have been obvious, but I ignored was that it will not hold panel saws well with the blade support only at the top. I should have made a second blade support (or the only blade support!) much lower so that it would hold shorter saws. I would also put hangers on the sides for bowsaws and coping saws.

Although most sawtills have the sawteeth pointing in (I guess this is less threatening?), I like having mine point out. It makes it easy to select a saw with the tooth profile that I am after.

Make sure you fasten it securely to the wall. I have read of others who had them fall before, and whether the teeth point in or out, this would be a recipe for disaster.

No matter how big you make it, you will fill it up.

Good Luck,

Ted

Re: Saw Till Warning

Richard Gillespie

>Thanks Hank, Michael, Doug and Ted for the replies. I wondered when I looked at the plan shown on shavings.net if there would be a problem of the saws falling out and fitting. That's one reason I was looking for additional plans.

I've already experienced one cabinet falling off the wall. I was storing woodworking books in one I hung in the garage about two years ago. Last week I added two more books to it and two days latter I found it hanging at a crazy angle. Some plywood I had stored under it stopped it from completely falling.

My wife bought that cabinet years ago on sale (now there is a true four letter word) at J.C. Penney's. Because the case is mdf, I'm only going to be able to save the oak and glass door.

Re: Saw Till

William Duffield on the Cohansey

>Dave Anderson, of Chester Tool Works, built a fine saw till, and followed it with a plane till to die for. He documented the plane till in Shop Shots #485, which just happens to show some photos of the saw till too. IIRC, he had previously posted some info on building the saw till, but it may have been on Badger Pond, or maybe on Traditional Tools. You might try searching the WC handtool archives for the key words "anderson" and "saw" and "till".

Over the years, I've gathered several photos of saw tills posted on various woodworking bulletin boards. But the only plans I have are the ones already mentioned. If you think some more photos might help more than confuse you, let me know, and I might be able to find the originals somewhere on the web. Otherwise, if you have a fast internet connection, I could e-mail you the photos I have, but I'll have to borrow the DSL modem from LOML to send them.

Re: Saw Till

Tom in Tipp

>William,

The one that Dave Anderson made is a beauty. I think it may be available to view over on the Saw Mill Creek site, doing a search. Dave is the moderator for the handtool forum over there, IIRC.

Tom

Re: Saw Till

Richard Gillespie

>Thanks Tom and William. I went over to sawmill creek and did a search and saw the saw and plane till that Dave built. Now I'm green with jealously.

His picture answered a storage question for me. It showed the correct positioning of the saws on the till. When I first saw the design on shavings.net I wondered how you kept the saws from falling out. There is a cleat you hook the saws on and mount them at an angle.

Re: Saw Tills *PICS*

William Duffield on the Cohansey

>I figure Dave's is inspiration enough for just about anyone, but continued to collect photos of other examples, just in case my brain goes blank when looking at a pile-o-rough-sawn-lumber and another small but growing pile-o-saws.

Here are a couple of pics of one built by Kevin French, and posted here on WoodCentral:

And here are references to two different tills built by Mark Meier that are on his personal webpages.

And, last but not least, here are Dave Anderson's tills, which have been posted on Sawmill Creek:

Saw Tills provenance

Paul Barnard

>Isn't that last one Dave Anderson's?

Yes

Hank Knight

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Re: Saw Tills *PICS*

William Duffield on the Cohansey

>All those pictures of fine cabinetry and tools and more tools are certainly overwhelming, especially the rows of L-N and Adria backsaws. I can understand how you could have easily missed the small line of text identifying the last photo, but it's in there.

Quite right

Paul Barnard

>I missed the in line text completely.

OT Sharing DSL

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>Time to get a DSL router, William!

Re: OT Sharing DSL

William Duffield on the Cohansey

>I've got one, but I haven't installed it yet. My ethernet cabling isn't quite long enough, I haven't gotten around to building a WiFi Cantenna, and I need to figure out some way to hide the wiring and computers and the rest of the gear so the house continues to have somewhat of an early 18th Century ambiance. I'm too busy making sawdust, gardening, swatting swarms of carnivorous flies (the greenheads have appeared a month early), and messing around in wooden boats to get a round tuit.

Re: OT Greenheads

Jack Guzman from Maine

>That's one critter that I think has Maine's blackflies beat for annoyance factor.They actually take a chunk of meat out of you when biting.Glad they don't hang out this far inland.---Crackerjack