Hinge question - will this work?!

Doh! - Nevermind...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>That thar gap looks about the right size to fit some high-profile screw heads, don't it? Hate when that happens...

Scott, told ya it was an ignorant question

Ok, lemme ask this instead - Hinge Selection?

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>I'm having a hard time making up my mind today, apparently...

Now that I'm looking at the situation, I'm not sure that the 6-1/2" hinges, held into the 3/4" chest back with two #4 5/8" screws each, will be sufficient to support a 20"x40" 3/4" maple top. The other option, some 8" strap hinges from Horton Brasses, would require an additional mounting block in the back of the chest.

Opinions? Suggestions? I like the look of the strap hinges for this, but want to make sure I'm not under-specifying the hardware...

Thanks (again),

Scott

Re: Hinge question - will this work?!

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>I have lost track - are you building from the Pop Woodworking plans? FWIW, they specify the Horton 8-inch strap hinge, #HF-9.

Re: Hinge question - will this work?! *LINK*

Adam Cherubini, NJ

>Scott,

Can't you put the short leaf on the back? (vertical face)

Otherwise=====

My toolchest uses hinges not unlike yours. I choose to attach the hinge on the inside for security reasons (you can't open the lid by unscrewing a couple hinge screws. Even the hinge pins are inaccessible). The back of the chest is notched deep enough for BOTH leaves. I almost screwed that up. Since you want the lid to sit flat on the top of the carcass, you need to notch deep enough for both hinge halves. You can kinda see it in this picture.

The chest you are building is a transition piece. In its most typical form it is half dovetailed carcass (georgian(?) joinery), half boarded (medieval joinery). The hinge of choice for that piece was the snipe hinge. Its like two intersecting cotter pins. Getting the hinge line in the right place is a bit tricky. I've done a couple of pieces like this, and I always sweat it.

Best of luck. Glad the front came out okay. What kind of molding are you going to use to cover up your nails? I came up with a good trick for that!

Adam


toolchest

Thanks, Adam, + more questions...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Yep - need to mortise deeper, looks like. I could surface-mount the short leaf to the outside back, I guess - any ramifications to this either way, or is it all aesthetic? I'd think that, with the little 5/8" screws supplied with the hinges, screwing the short leaf to the back would provide more strength than screwing them straight down into a mortise. Dunno - thoughts?

Molding?! To cover nail holes?! You are killing me. I'm following plan on this one - setting nails and filling holes. Got a suggestion for a good filler?

Thanks for the thoughts, and link.

Scott

Re: Thanks, Adam, + more questions...

Adam Cherubini, NJ

>Yep - need to mortise deeper,

You don�t mean mortise, do you? You�re just cutting a notch in a backer board, right?

I could surface-mount the short leaf to the outside back, I guess - any ramifications to this either way, or is it all aesthetic?

Depending on the length of the short leaf, its just asthetics.

I'd think that, with the little 5/8" screws supplied with the hinges, screwing the short leaf to the back would provide more strength than screwing them straight down into a mortise. Dunno - thoughts?

If you screwed down, you could use longer screws. Structurally, I�d say mounting to the back is better.

Molding?! To cover nail holes?! You are killing me.

A double or single arch mold is typical on these. You fake the drawers fronts using them. For a more primitive piece, where there are no fake drawer fronts, where there are no moldings, I�d skip the filler as well. Finish right over top of the nail heads and let them show. I milk paint over nail heads all the time. Finish off with a coat of shoe polish and you�re good. Try not to sweat the details. Work fast. Make more stuff.

Adam

Nice Tool Chest!

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

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Re: Nice Tool Chest!

MikeL in SoCal

>Yes, nice tool chest Adam but also, how about a photo capturing more of that big wheel lathe?

Cheers,

Mike