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Record #05 Jack Plane, Loose Handle

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Record #05 Jack Plane, Loose Handle

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Record #05 Jack Plane, Loose Handle

Ken in Boise

>I bought the plane 2 years ago new from Amazon.com. I just got around to sharpening the blade and using it to flatten a work bench top. After about 45 minutes, the handle loosened. I tried to tighten the front screw and it just turned so I removed the handle. The screw only had about 2 threads of engagement and is now stripped. The plane threads seem fine. My problem is finding a replacement screw.

The threads must be British. They match to 20 threads per inch (tpi) but the diameter is about 3/16" or maybe a #12. I can't find the screw anywhere. Not even at the local Industrial fasterner supply house.

Irwin Tools, who owns Record, doesn't ship the planes here anymore and doesn't stock parts. They basically said I was SOL. I did get an email address for someone in England but they haven't answered me.

So, after this longwinded story, I've got a couple of questions. 1. Anyone know what kind of screw this is and where I could buy one? 2. If not, anyone know if I would be creating a problem by retapping the plane to a 1/4 - 20? It appears to have enough meat around the threads to handle it. Thanks.

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paul womack

>The threads must be British.

Nope - I think they're "plane-ish".

This has previously been discussed on the porch.

I have a suggestion on my website as to how you might cut such a thread on a bolt.

BugBear

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Re: Record #05 Jack Plane, Loose Handle *LINK*

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>Are the threads the same on Record planes as they are on Stanley planes? If so, replacement rods are available from the Museum of Woodworking Tools store.

Wendell


Replacement Handle Rod for Stanley Smooth Planes

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Tom MacGregur

>If a Stanley replacement dosen't fit I'd retap it to 1/4-20. I keep a factory full of vintage WWII machines running - many with British & other oddball threads - and retap to easily available sizes on a regular basis. I would expect your success to depend on your familiarity with tapping properly. I'd clamp the plane on a drillpress & after drilling a #7 hole, chuck in a 1/4-20 chamfer tap and use the press to start the threads dead straight by turning it by hand with moderate pressure on the quill and a few drops of cutting oil.

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Paul D. May

>Bob Kaune stocks the screws. I bought a few from him a while ago and actually spoke with him on the phone....

Nice person to deal with.

Paul


Bob Kaune antique tools

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Ideal tapping practice vs. life in the trenches

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>While Tom suggests the ideal method for retapping the hole, I've never managed near the precision he proposes and have had perfectly fine success just holding my mouth just right and the tap as near vertical as I can get it.

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todd stock

>Late to the party, but how about:

1. Trimming the bunged threads off the screw by cutting an 1/8" or so off the 1/2" long threaded portion.

2. Deepening the countersink in the handle by 3/8" or so with a forstner bit.

Shimming the screw with washers as required to get a quarter inch or so of engagement.

This worked for me on a Record - you might try it.

Todd

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Jig vs. freehand

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Tom and I have been having a side conversation on this issue, and I realized that the question of using a drill press as a tapping assist vs. holding it freehand and taking your chances is very like the sharpening jig vs. freehand sharpening debate. Both sides are right - it just depends on comfort level.

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