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Kids in the shop

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

The next generation of woodworkers will, or will not, be developed by getting kids in the shop and helping/letting them make stuff. Effective motivation can be making stuff they want. Most take pride in their rooms so building stuff for their rooms can gain their interest.

Case in point. Both granddaughters wanted bed side dressers. They had a long weekend and their parents supported their interest in this project by driving them here (5 hours) to spend the weekend doing what they could do. So what can a 8 and 12 years old do? A lot it turns out, if provided some guidance and a loose leash.

12 year old: Table saw and router are off limits at this age but most everything else is fair game. I flattened cuttings for the tops on the jointer and she did the rest- planed to thickness, jointed edges, edge glued the panels, hand planed panel to smooth and finish sanded. I routed edges. Most adult woodworkers could take a lessen from her panel assembly. Joints were in near perfect alignment and there was just a tiny bead of glue squeeze-out. It was interesting that her father who watches UTubes asked about some panel gluing aids/crutches he had seen. I pointed out his 12 year old daughter just assembled a perfect panel without any of them. Yet another skill I learned in the Headley shop I can pass along.

She chopped dovetail waste for drawers and applied glue for drawer assembly. I helped with squaring the drawer.

8 year old:

She struggled with the hand plane. Bench height was too high for her. Will work on that task next visit. She sanded her dresser. I showed her how and what to look for that made a perfect job. She was quick to spot places where sanding was not perfect and worked to make them so. I showed her how to lay out dovetails on drawers, described in a post last week, and she completed this task. I sawed and her sister chopped, not gallery perfect, but as good as I strive for which is good enough.

Much as I would like to think so, these kids may have exceptional parents to provide the opportunity, but they are not exceptional. The kids in your life can do this work and make stuff they will treasure if you provide the opportunity. I expect that children age 12 did a lot of furniture building in 1720.

I have a friend who is a supervisor. He told of a 20 something year old employee needing to screw something together. Supervisor observed this clumsy attempt and inquired. The employee reported that he hasn't ever used a screw driver much. There is a parent problem behind this deficiency.

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Barry Irby

When my son was about 13 I started teaching him to turn. Quickly, he was better than I am. The day he turned 15 we attended a week at Arrowmont with David Ellsworth. He was the hit of the class. David took me aside and sort of mumbled about the fact they did not like father/son or husband/wife combos. (because one is always better than the other.) He thought I would be upset to learn my son was better than I was. I was thrilled, told David that should be the goal of every parent and teacher, to make the student better than they are. And, now the burden is on David. It's twenty years later and even though he doesn't turn much anymore, he's still better than I am.

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AZ in Colorado Springs

Several years ago I led a couple of sessions for cub scouts to complete some basic woodworking tasks. The first day we made letter holders (for mail). Three pieces -- a solid piece of wood for the base and two 1/4" plywood sides, glued and nailed together to form a "u". The kids struggled with nailing. When the dads tried to help it got worse. I was stunned by that.

The second session we made book ends, and pre-drilled the nail holes (all 3/4" stock). The kids also traced & cut fleur de lys figures (the scouting symbol) using scroll saws and 1/4" plywood. They did a great job at that.

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same experience

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

I did a scout blue bird house project. Same experience. It is the rare parent that is helpful in this situation....fortunately I have helpful ones with the granddaughters.

Discovered as you did that predrilling holes was essential.

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Larry Clinton At Frankfort, (Central) Indiana

Many years ago, my (now deceased) BIL was a Cub Scoutmaster. I was in my teens and had a jig saw my Uncle had gifted me. My BIL obtained free scrap 1/4" plywood cutoffs from a cabinet shop and I traced the outline and areas to be painted with carbon paper.

I then cut out many of Ducks, Geese and other animals. The Cub scouts painted the ornaments and nailed a stake on the back. I saw several gracing yards in this city for some years!

I was a Scoutmaster many years later, had a lot of fun camping and doing activities with the older boys.

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Ralph Lipeles

I was 13 years old and lived in the Bronx, NY. I watched them build Constantines and then walked around inside the building. I had very little money but wanted to make something. Mr Constantine and the store manager, John Koven let me pick up and take scraps of veneer that had broken off from larger pieces and fallen on the floor. I did buy a medium sized sheet of 1/8" mahogony and a veneer saw. I used the veneer saw to cut the mahogony as well as cutting the veneer. My first project was a cigarett box. In those days hosts and hostesses put out cigarettes for their guests. I was very pleased with the way the box turned out. I subsequently attended several Constantine seminars on various aspects of woodworking and wood finishing. A year later, when my parents wanted to get new furniture for the room that my brother and I shared, my parents agreed to buy me a table saw and sander so that I could make the furniture. So, I had a good start in woodworking and at a pretty young age. If someone can tell me how to include a picture I will add the picture of the cigarette box.

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jessecloud

Kids in the shop are great, but try to tell something to an adult!! Often as not they already "know it all" and everything you say goes in one ear and out the other. Scares the beejeebers out of me.

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Johanna Johanson

I am so very grateful that my father encouraged me to learn basic carpentry skills. He was an engineer, so he emphasized careful measurements and precise assembly. The tools he had to work with were terrible - WWII vintage. I have kept some of them just to remind me of him and how he achieved amazingly good results with such poor equipment.

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