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For those of you buying on line.....

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For those of you buying on line.....

Barry Irby

Without mentioning any names (largest river in S. America), a friend of mine's daughter has gotten some sort of gig as a product reviewer. When I am shopping I generally ignore the five star reviews and check the ones with one or two stars. Even those, I ignore about half of them. Many of the five star ones are little more than, "They shipped it quickly and It's pretty". They send her all kinds of stuff free and in return, she posts a review. (then she sells the stuff on some other site). What bothered me about it was they list her reviews with the phrase Verified Purchaser included. Clearly the reviews are less honest than I thought.

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Ebay and amazon are kind of...

David Weaver

..the same like that.

saw a used car seller once say he realized when he was young (like literally 12 years old or something) in ebay's car infancy that he could set up a bunch of IDs and sell a gaggle of really cheap things through them to build feedback, and then start selling cars, and people would see that he had 100% feedback.

I hope there are controls for that.

Almost everything on amazon with high ratings and about 25 stars is filled with reviews all at once, and off and on with them, reviewers say "got this product in return for posting my honest review". I figure that most of the rest of the reviews also got them either free, or through the sham work-around that you're describing, where someone gets the item, gets comped for it and still makes it look like they bought it.

Be wary of common trick #2, also - sellers using an old listing with favorable feedback to mis-list a new item that shouldn't have any feedback. The most recent feedbacks are for the listed item, but hundreds or thousands of other older reviews have nothing to do with the listed product.

I read reviews for comments that seem more genuine, like "had this cooler for four months, liked it, but it developed a leak and ..."

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John McGaw

Try ReviewMeta.com -- they do analyses of Amazon ratings and do a pretty fair job of filtering out scam reviews, product switches, paid reviews, and such.

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Buckaroo

AMAZON??? Last 3 - 4 days been getting notices from'm they were waiting for my shipping instruction. But the two different serpent emails had two different ph. numbers!!! I replied 'Aint ordered anything from Amazon' & 'What's in that order?" NO REPLIES, NO ANSWER!!

ALSO while I'm at this.

Several months back received a nice drill set from, ----well ANOTHER FAMOUS NAME THAT GIVES AWAY MONEY!! TOLD'M DIDN'T ORDER IT WEREN'T GONNA PAY'M FER IT. STILL GOT IT , AINT BEEN DUNNED EITHER

Just life.

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jessecloud

Yup,

Lots of those reviews are bogus. I never pay much attention to reviews anywhere, even Fine Woodworking.

I remember once FWW panned Festool because "no one would ever need a HEPA vac in their shop" in the reviewer's opinion.

Only thing I take semi seriously is when a lot of the reviews point out the same problem or the same neat feature in a product.

I save my biggest rant for YELP. Most of the reviews here in New Mexico are from tourists who mark down the food because it has chile pepper in it - well DUH, its New Mexico, that what we eat.

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Thanks for that!!

David Weaver

I've always done the labor intensive method of manual credibility review! Looking for something that would suggest that a reviewer actually wanted the item or had a specific problem that someone who wants it would have.

The detailed professional reviewers usually end up coming off like a youtube review video, talking about specs all in a row, or features where the typical buyer would say "who cares?" to 80% of them.

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David Weaver

I'm sure that they have data on the rate of reviewers and just write off the given away items as a cost. If you keep it, they won't care - and know that they have no legal right to get you to do anything or even send the item back.

I'd just keep it, too.

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worst is...

David Weaver

...long ownership items where a retailer or manufacturer eggs people on to go make a review a week after they purchased something.

I bought tires a couple of weeks ago, and the reviews were almost unintelligible for actual information. Last couple of sets have fallen way short of mileage ratings (understandable, but more like half of the mileage rating or just a little more).

Sure would've liked to have seen some people commenting about wear, but all of them had comments like:

"Just got these tires last week!"

Awesome. When I'm trying to find out if a 60k mile tire typically has issues after 20k or 50k, you're here as a reviewer to tell me how things have gone for 150 miles. When you have sidewall tread split in three years, come back and tell me time and mileage please, and what the manufacturer did about it.

There are times where there's useful information hidden in the piles of crap. We're stuck getting a new fridge. Salesman always come up with "they don't last as long as they used to now", which may be true, but may also be to butter you up for an extended warranty.

you can search for words like "compressor" and find accounts of people who have had problems and then their account of how long it took to get the problems solved. People with trouble tend to come back to their reviews because they think "i'm sure not going to leave that good review up if I can help it".

there's income to be made here somewhere for someone who can meaningfully estimate data based on comment mining. If there are three dozen comments from people who have broken compressors and can't get parts because it's systemic, then the mining could tell me that.

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Did I ever mention...

John in NM

Being on a trip to Charlotte, NC for work in 2015? First night I was stuck without a car, wanting to keep from having to rent two and waiting for the nightowl I was working with to show up. Looking for places to eat within walking distance of my hotel, I saw a Mexican restaurant just around the corner, and seeing a bunch of 3 star reviews I read the first one - "The waitress didn't even speak English" -- Sold! Went and had some really good carne asada! Next night had the fajitas. And they had Negra Modelo....

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reviews genuine

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

I was looking for a replacement safety razor to replace the 50 year old one that wore out. The reviews were mostly from 20 year olds that had never shaved with a double edged blade. Many ended in blood.

I was moved to write a review that began "those that have never shaved with this kind of razor should resist reviewing its performance". The company owner must have been tickled because this line become the title of the lead review for these razors.

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Dale Stansbery

I buy a lot from Amazon, but only rarely things that aren't also available elsewhere. That allows me to sample reviews from other sites as well as Amazon. Generally I google the product name followed by "reviews" and get a wide sample to choose from.

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Ralph Lipeles

I was taught years ago: Believe nothing that you hear or read and half of what you see.

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Paul Leuba

Several years ago the saw blade on my pole saw that I use for tree trimming became dull. I went online to amazon and searched for the same brand and specifications for the existing blade because it had performed well for several years.

Of course I checked out the reviews. I was very impressed by the first review even though it was several years old. I felt the review was well written, articulate, covered all the important characteristics of the blade, such as, durability, sharpness, stiffness, etc. I was convinced the reviewer was knowledgeable and knew what he was talking about. I was sold. After reading the review I checked the author information line and was really surprised to find that I had written the review about my purchase of the now worn out blade several years ago. I purchased it again and have been just as happy with it, but no re-review was submitted.

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#14

Apparently you were right!

AZ in Colorado Springs

:D

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Barry Irby

I have nearly done the same thing. Every once in a while I click on something here on WC and think, "This guy has nailed this, exactly what I was thinking!) only to realize it was me.

I also watched a YouTube video and was about to comment on it when I read my own comment for a year or two ago.

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Re: reviews genuine

TomD

I had the same experience with straight razors. The guys who review them, and often are experts, are into it like people are into coffee, where to put it mildly, it is not because they have more work to do...

They would write these reviews where it was all about the experience, and how to fill in the first 30 minutes of their day. They are in an ethereal, sandlewood scented world... Oh, come on, where in the in-flight bag...

I use a straight razor because I have a beard, and can cut to a new line, no matter how thick the beard is (mine is not tough) and it is all gone, no irritation. I use the replaceable blade type, because I can then use the blades for fly tying. I once used one of the great German blades for my daily trimming for about a month, and then ended up in the wilderness for 2 more moths, without any more blades. It was painful by the end of 3 months on the same blade. So for my reviews I look for the guy who has used the same blade for at least 2 months. :)

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frank morgan

I always look for products that have reviews in the 100's...about 300 to 500, I start believing the stars are just indicative....look at the 5 star (ignore "its pretty and came fast"), and look at the 2-3 stars (ignore the its the wrong color as in its off white, not artic white, or similar). Also, just because a review was super good or bad, its that people have different things they want out of the product..like quick delivery is important to some, and color to others...just not me.

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