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Moxomless dovetailing

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Moxomless dovetailing

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

Recently, as a result of the continuing discussion of the benefits of Moxom vises and the joy of building them in an increasingly refined form, I built a narrow one for doing drawers. I'll get to use it eventually, but first I had a job to assemble two dovetailed cases for bed side dressers. My vise- 9". Case sides- 15 1/2".



My point is not to disparage building a large vise that will accommodate case sides, but rather to offer an alternative that works just fine, illustrated in the picture. The panel is held securely, the edge is elevated for easier sawing and fixing and unfixing the panel is quick and easy. For me a large vise would not offer any benefit.



Once the tails are done their pattern is transferred to the pin board as shown in PIC 2. There was recent discussion of this operation with the aid of clamps. I did not think them necessary at that time and having done it 8 times yesterday, I maintain that the friction of the arrangement shown is so great than clamping becomes an unnecessary inconvenience. If for some unforeseen reason I did not what to use my left hand for holding the tail board down I would put a bag of lead shot on it.

Re: Moxomless dovetailing

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Re: Moxomless dovetailing

David Weaver

I don't do as many dovetails as you do, but also don't have a moxon vise that I use (I built a hulk of one years ago that was also a router table fence, depending on what you want to have on it or not).

I think that if most people built first and read the forum later, they'd come up with more kludges like yours (I do something similar - my leg vise is good for grip on the left side of a board and I just use a quick grip clamp for the other side).

No clue what a paying shop would do. I like to do this type of work with me in motion as much as possible because it helps me pay attention better.

I no longer have a router table other than a tiny portable one just for flush trim on guitar bodies, but sometimes it would've been nice to have kept (for things like guitars that have a design made for power tool making).

Re: Moxomless dovetailing

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Re: Moxomless dovetailing

Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

Bill, the irony is that we all used face vises and clamps this way in the past. The popularity of a Moxon vise began in recent years. There is nothing wrong with either method. Choose your poison - it is the result which counts.

Regards from Munich

Derek

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