Question on Kreg screws and Plugging the hole?

Re: Question on Kreg screws and Plugging the hole?

John in NM

Fuller makes excellent plug cutters and countersink bits. You can use the cone countersink with a flat bottom screw like Kreg makes, it will just compress the wood a bit more. Or you can contact Fuller directly for the proper countersink to drill a flat bottomed hole. These drill a cleaner countersink than a twist drill.

I like pocket screws a lot for cabinets and utility stuff where speed is important. With glue the system makes a wonderfully strong joint considering the minimal effort. Used internally I wouldn't worry so much for furniture, but they are not as strong as M-T joints or other proper furniture methods. Appropriate uses are things like holding on tops, etc. I tend to cut much bigger pockets for those applications, using a big gouge.

they make the best Fuller makes excellent plug cut

del schisler

they are the best , other don't work like fuller

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Dick Coers

One of the first issues a lot of folks have with a Kreg jig, is they used a cordless drill. Way too low of rpm. Then they feed it too fast. When Kreg first came out, they gave specific instructions to use a cord drill at high speed, and slow feed. If you only do a few, why not bring in another drill with a brad point bit in it to predrill, then follow with the step bit.

I didn't know Fuller made a plug cutter for the long plugs needed for a pocket hole. But I really don't think the plug is the issue.

If you want to spend a lot more for a stepped bit, here's a link for a $50 carbide tipped one.


https://www.carbideprocessors.com/face-frame-drill-bit-3-8-dia-29-center-drill-complete-assembly-southeast-tool-sffb900

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John in NM

OP maybe wasn't clear enough - the recommendation for Fuller was regarding clean perpendicular holes and plugs for same. They don't make a plug cutter for the angled hole plugs, though they do make custom step drills if you pay the bucks for them... I bet they would make you a 3/8 step drill with a brad point style spur on the outer rim, but that would be an expensive bit as a one off.

I've never had any trouble using Kreg bits in a cordless. Probably that advice applied to those 1990 vintage 9.6V tools. Modern cordless drills run plenty fast for a Kreg jig and step drill. Good advice about pushing too hard however - let the drill do the work and if that doesn't work its time to sharpen the bit!

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Barry Irby

I thought I was clear that I was talking about Regular round holes where the drill bit enters the wood perpendicular tot he face, not the elongated ovals created when using the Kreg Jig.

I will look at the speed of my drill. It is battery powered. I will Check the speed of my corded drill against it. Interesting concept. Trying to visualize why high speed would reduce tear out around the hole.

I did have some luck with just being careful, squaring the drill to the surface and taking my time.

I will look into the Fuller plug cutter. The one I have tapers the plug slightly and that seems to be a good feature. One thing that helps is to draw a line along the grain on the plugs before cutting the row. Makes lining the grain up easier.

Thanks for the help.

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John in NM

That is what I thought, but I'm notorious for reading a post lightly and answering the question I thought I read