JDS accru miter company?

Gone, I believe *LINK*

Henry Higginbotham

I talked with a guy at The Woodworking Shows in Atlanta (in 2018, I think) who had taken over production of the Multi-Router. I think the link below is his company:

He said the JDS company had closed and none of the other products were available. I wish they were--the AccuMiter was an excellent product, and I need a new shot pin for mine.


https://multi-router.com/

Re: Gone, I believe

Michael van pelt

thanks for the update. so sorry. great products.

First precise tool I ever saw...

david weaver

..a friend of mine who believes the less a worker actually touches the wood (and the more the work is done by precise machines) the better the work will be...

.. he used a multirouter for everything, including trimming miters, etc.

Drove me to hand tools!!

Would be a wonderful machine to have for a one off shop with set up templates, though.

Re: JDS accru miter company?

Barry Irby

Slightly off topic, but my son and I drove to Highland Hardware to see a demo by Sam Maloof. During a break I was walking around in the store (The Main purpose of the Demo for Highland Hardware) and came upon a multirouter. I was playing with the handles discovering the three way motion when another fellow walked up. I said, "I don't know what this is, but I want one." He Said "Me too, it has a high Gizmology Factor." I still don't have one, but he does.

Sorry they are gone.

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david weaver

My first experience with one made me wish for a third hand.

Really neat tool to use, though. The guy who owns one locally here got so obsessed with joint size that he found his first project wouldn't fit together once he put glue on the parts.

No clue what they used to cost, but I see the basic machine is $3K now.

There was an article in FWW about a cabinetmaker somewhere who was using one, but that was years ago. the promise of accuracy draws my woodworking buddy in, but the speed of using the tool when you have to set up most cuts (slow) means that it remains more of a fascination than a use in practice. I work mostly with hand tools, and I think the method with it demand some precision in prepared stock (at least how I've seen it used). If you wanted to make 50 tenons on similar sticks, it could really do it fast, then turn around and do all of the mortises. and you can play with it like a shooting board and shim things and make small adjustments if necessary, but ....

.....it takes a very long time!

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Dick Coers

I had one for decades, recently sold it and bought a Domino. I hardly ever made tenons on it. I milled 3-4’ strips of material and made floating tenons. With experience and the air clamps, there is no faster way to do joinery.

Re: JDS accru miter company?

david weaver

I'd gathered that if the owner could manage to get some standard setups and use loose tenons, the machine could easily make them really tight without wielding long sticks around with tenons on them.

That's what the owner was hoping to work toward (all loose tenons), but he ran out of steam and is now retired. He didn't have air clamps, though, but at the rate I was working, it didn't matter at all. They could've been peined on and it wouldn't have slowed me down.

It's a super slick machine, but everything has a learning curve.

Re: That solves....

david weaver

..where my friend got the idea for a multirouter. I'm assuming David Marks is still around and doing classes (the friend of mine talked about him constantly).

I don't have cable TV (I'm sure the guy is on youtube), and work almost entirely by hand, so I've never seen his show or any of his work. I got the sense that it was more on the modern side.

But David Marks having one is probably about 99.5% of the reason my friend got one (Just as Norm probably quintupled the sales of oscillating spindle sanders). TV/Cable, etc, just seeing stuff work in the hands of someone experienced is powerful marketing.

Re: That solves....

Dick Coers

Photos in Fine Woodworking articles are what sold me. A high percentage of custom furniture makers that were contributors had them in their shops . I paid for mine a couple times over when I had my custom woodworking business. My testimonial for the durability of floating tenons was a pair of exterior doors I made for a downtown Peoria, IL strip club called Big Al's. Can't imagine how many people went in those doors through the decades, and the number that got thrown out through them. When they had to relocate, they took the doors and installed them inside the new club as part of a memorial to the old place.

Dick, did you get paid in.....

Barry Irby

Singles? Just asking?

Years ago I did a Home Inspection for a young lady. The Fee was $285. I got $270 in ones and three five dollar bills. I was too polite and afraid to ask her what she did for a living.

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Stuart Johnson

How does it compare to the PantoRouter? https://pantorouter.com/

the multirouter..

david weaver

...is a cast machine with linear bearings. It is a heavy industrial quality machine and has been around for eons.

The pantorouter by the about appears to be a metal version of matthias wandel's pantorouter, but mostly aluminum.

If you found a used multirouter for anything close to the price of the aluminum pantorouter, it would be a no brainer to buy the multirouter. There is a gaggle of accessories that can be bought with or for the multirouter that speed up use for production.

While the multirouter isn't really my style, it is a very impressive machine.

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John in NM

The multirouter was heavier than is the pantorouter. I've never used one, but I've used a multirouter extensively for a few years when they were the hot thing. I would be surprised if that pantograph mechanism and all the extruded aluminum hold up well under the forces of routing joints. The multirouter did because it used linear bearings on pretty large shafts & cast plates rather than 820 style extrusions (those are not as stout because they rely on friction from fasteners holding everything together for stability under vibration and the reaction forces of a router cutting wood).

Looks like a neat idea, but I don't think it will achieve the same reputation as the multirouter did.