what's with all the Windows updates

6/27/19, 12:44 AM #1

Bill Tindall, E.TN.
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what's with all the Windows updates

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

I am getting more than an update a week for Windows 7. They all seem to be Security Essentials. Is something afoot out there?

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6/27/19, 12:47 AM #2

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A known vulnerability (end of the world bad) for 7 and I believe 8. I have 10, so I haven't been paying close attention.

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6/27/19, 7:20 AM #3

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Microsoft introduced Security Essentials to cover the gap left open by Windows Defender. MSE was designed to provide real-time protection against a fuller range of malicious software than its predecessor. MSE defends against malware like viruses and worms, Trojans, rootkits, spyware and others.

I've noticed the same frequency of updates for Windows Defender on my laptop running Win7 that I use at our river cottage. Our other three computers (2 Win7 & 1 Win10) don't get these update notices. All four computers are protected by third party programs, so no need for Windows own protection program.

Problem with the laptop is even though I tell it to ignore the Defender updates, it still nags me there are new updates, which ends up only being for Windows Defender. Not sure why so many updates recently but as often happens with the main Windows updates, possibly some are issued to fix previous ones that caused problems.

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I live in Mechanicsville, VA (not far from Richmond) and I've been building furniture and cabinetry for well over 20 years now. It all started with my frustration of not being able to cut a straight line with a hand saw. About this same time, a guy named Norm appeared on my local PBS station. The more I watched, the more I learned. I also started thinking, "Hey, I can do that"! And so, I began with small projects and soon found myself moving up to increasingly advanced work. Word of mouth started the ball rolling and before I knew it, I was building all kinds of things for people. While this is not what I do to pay the bills, it has provided me with a means of equipping my shop over the years. The main downside to all of this is when my wife looks at a finished project and says, "I want one of those" and I know I don't have the time to make that happen right then. I take advantage of any slack time between commissions to work on things we want and this seems to keep her "on my side". She even surprised me one day with a new Tormek sharpening system. Sometimes it pays to leave that tool catalog lying around open! For me, woodworking is a type of therapy. I can go out to the shop and totally forget about the world outside. There have been days when I get out there early and before I know it, it's dark outside and I have no idea where the time went! I also enjoy challenging my skills and learning new things. Most of the time, since the majority of my work tends to be custom pieces, I'm working on projects I�ve never built before. While this takes me longer than if I were doing production work, I find it more appealing because there's always something new to learn. I haven't had any formal training in woodworking. My teachers have been experience, the many books and magazines I've read, WoodCentral, and of course, a guy named Norm.

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6/27/19, 11:38 AM #4

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I have one PC left with windows 7 on it.

Last week, it got its last update, then a warning that support was stopping and the X key stopped working when it restarted.

That could be a coincidence, maybe it did actually stop working.

But their "end of the world bad" issue when the version is going off support seems like a handy coincidence.

I believe (with no proof) that the updates add overhead each time to obsolete older computers and sell a new OS license.

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6/27/19, 2:08 PM #5

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Last update should be....

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Microsoft claims the last security patch for the OS will arrive on January 14 (Patch Tuesday), 2020.

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I live in Mechanicsville, VA (not far from Richmond) and I've been building furniture and cabinetry for well over 20 years now. It all started with my frustration of not being able to cut a straight line with a hand saw. About this same time, a guy named Norm appeared on my local PBS station. The more I watched, the more I learned. I also started thinking, "Hey, I can do that"! And so, I began with small projects and soon found myself moving up to increasingly advanced work. Word of mouth started the ball rolling and before I knew it, I was building all kinds of things for people. While this is not what I do to pay the bills, it has provided me with a means of equipping my shop over the years. The main downside to all of this is when my wife looks at a finished project and says, "I want one of those" and I know I don't have the time to make that happen right then. I take advantage of any slack time between commissions to work on things we want and this seems to keep her "on my side". She even surprised me one day with a new Tormek sharpening system. Sometimes it pays to leave that tool catalog lying around open! For me, woodworking is a type of therapy. I can go out to the shop and totally forget about the world outside. There have been days when I get out there early and before I know it, it's dark outside and I have no idea where the time went! I also enjoy challenging my skills and learning new things. Most of the time, since the majority of my work tends to be custom pieces, I'm working on projects I�ve never built before. While this takes me longer than if I were doing production work, I find it more appealing because there's always something new to learn. I haven't had any formal training in woodworking. My teachers have been experience, the many books and magazines I've read, WoodCentral, and of course, a guy named Norm.

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6/27/19, 2:12 PM #6

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Time to get familiar with my MacBook Pro

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The , (comma) key just fell off my Windoze 7 laptop.

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I’m a fairly spry 82-year-old who had been a reader/participant at WoodCentral since the demise of Badger Pond. I started visiting BP to learn something about finish for a project I’d completed and became hooked on internet forums as a way of increasing my knowledge about all sorts of topics. I have been a moderator for a couple other forums on subjects I enjoy. My interest in woodworking began in the early 1970’s when my wife and I had contractors add to our house near Traverse City, MI, and I ended up doing the trim work to reduce mounting costs. I had no tools. I bought a P-C skilsaw, hammer, screwdrivers and one of those wooden miter boxes with a backsaw. I made trim for windows and doors from one-by lumber and started my woodworking career. At the same time, I started a 50-year career as a ski instructor. I got onto the night shift at a mental hospital so I could ski days, and spent my 30s and 40s with that schedule. I eventually replaced the PC-upside-down-in-a-board with a real table saw and began the purchase of enough equipment to fill a jam-packed 40-foot shipping container we used after we sold our property in Michigan. The ski instructing had taken us to Colorado and we were spending too much on maintaining utilities for two homes. A couple years ago, the dozen years spent at 10,000 feet of elevation was making my body produce too many red blood cells, so we had to leave my “forever” home in the mountains and we moved back to Michigan. Now I have to find myself a shop space for all those tools in the container.

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6/27/19, 2:50 PM #7

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Re: small price to pay...

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..the computer that I'm whining about was a refurbished HP laptop from 7 years ago. It got a little sluggish last year, and I bought a newer one, so it's relegated to printing labels at this point (X doesn't come up often in labels, but if it does, you can do it dialing in an ascii number - this X issue is only a week old, but I remember the ascii trick from eons ago to type temperature ... 81º - alt 1959, x is alt 1912. I'm sure there's a three digit code.

I have a personal rule of $100 per year for computer costs. The last laptop met it right on the dot, as did the one before it (I haven't added any inflation). The next one will last 6 1/2 years.

My BIL often mentions mac, but I can't get remotely close to the same specs, maybe not within twice of the annual budget - of my rule.

I like the $600 to include at least mid-up spec CPU (like an I7 of some sort) and double the typical memory amount. Refurbished parts PCs from foreign sounding people in the US seem to be the only way I can meet that. The rule isn't that important, except that I would probably double or triple it if I just bought what looked nice.

Times are good for a PC buyer if my X issue (on a 7 yr old refurb pc) and obnoxious windows updates are the worst. My first PC in 1995 was a graduation gift from my parents. It was $3,600, a desktop and tower, and within two years, all of its guts had been replaced because it was bordering on being out of date due to the new windows versions being resource suckers. Probably about $6k in today's dollars.

what's with all the Windows updates

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