Delta made a outfeed table hardware kit for their Contractor's table saw. I consider myself very fortunate to have one because I never see or hear of anyone that also has one. It's been very nice to have, it installs and removes easily with no tools, and nothing gets in the way when tilting the blade. Hard to imagine why more were not sold.
Maybe because independent outfeed roller stands work even better, for less money? Moving them up later from my Delta contractor saw to my Rockwell UniSaw and to my Industrial Saw Stop were non-issues.
( Maybe because independent outfeed roller stands work even better, for less money? ) I don't see either claim to be true. ( Moving them up later from my Delta contractor saw to my Rockwell UniSaw and to my Industrial Saw Stop were non-issues.) Once again, no issue here. Part of any trade is knowing which tool you need for the job, and as mostly a hobbyist which is what most of us are, and all new will ever be, a Commercial grade Contractor's table saw with a good fence is plenty good enough for me for 25 years. I guess if you can afford a Industrial cabinetsaw in a more then likely hobbyist environment, well good for you. Do you own a one ton dually truck too ?
I don't own any trucks; never have. Over the course of more than 50 years, I have owned about three vans (if you classify a Scion xB as a van), each one smaller than the previous.
I have the Industrial SawStop for one reason: Safety. It was the only saw available at the time I bought it with the technology to prevent amputations. I had recently lost the best job I ever had due to a table saw accident.
My Delta contractor saw wore out in a lot less than 25 years. As far as I'm concerned, it was badly designed and cheaply made. Their customer service was abysmal, as they would not even acknowledge its defects, even though they had been amply documented all over the Internet.
Except, i needed the roller for some other function, so I removed it and replaced it with a hearse coffin roller a friend gave me, which cost me nothing. I'm sure that well more than half the value of the complete stand was in the original roller.
Weather you want to admit it or not, the Delta Unisaw is also a Industrial saw.
( My Delta contractor saw wore out in a lot less than 25 years. As far as I'm concerned, it was badly designed and cheaply made. Their customer service was abysmal, as they would not even acknowledge its defects, even though they had been amply documented all over the Internet. )
Please tell us what your minor nit picking problems were with the the made in the USA saw, it was probably the building trades industries and hobbyists standard for many years.
You just complaind about something being cheaply made, and then you put in a plug for Harbor Freight and a saw thats made in Taiwan. My roller stand:
I hesitate to reply but I have a few thoughts to share anyway. Anyone that's paid attention here knows your stand on the Delta contractor saw. You own one, it works for you, and has gotten the job done for a long time. That's great.
Myself, I started out as a hobbyist with a Grizzly contractor saw. A few modifications made it a very good saw, even if it was made in Taiwan. Soon my "hobby" turned into a very demanding fulltime business while I was holding down a real fulltime job. I went as far as I could with that contractor saw until it was time to trade up.
I traded up to a Jet (probably made in Taiwan too) cabinet saw because it offered a larger work surface, better fence, and more power for cutting the heavier stock I was working with more and more.
The Saw Stop wasn't around yet. I could have bought a Unisaw but found the Jet more appealing after doing my homework on the two. I've never regretted the purchase.
I don't necessarily think the country of origin means something is junk but then I also am not a fan of Harbor Freight either. The point is, Charlie, that people make purchase decisions based on any number of things. You've been carrying the banner for contractor saws for a long time. Nothing wrong with them for a lot of folks. Just as there's nothing wrong with cabinet saws for those that want or can afford them.
What could possibly be wrong with owning the tool one prefers if one can afford it and sees the value in spending a bit more to avoid what can be a very expensive accident? William solves problems differently than you do, welcome to the world.
We should not belittle persons who choose differently than we do. It's evidence of a closed mind and the narrow view of the world that comes from that closed mind.
For the record, I run a 1950's Unisaw, because it was less expensive to purchase than a new contractor's saw. I'm an admitted cheapskate.
No, it's not. There is a significant difference between "Industrial saw" and "Industrial SawStop." The former is a grammatical error; the latter is a registered model name.
I did not put in a plug for the HF roller stand. My sole intent was to refute your assertion that my roller stand was more expensive than your outfeed table.
Whether SawStop models are made in Taiwan (or in Kickapoo Junction, for that matter) tells you nothing about their design, their materials and components, or their quality control. Your statement sounds like a racist slur.
I can't remember what the cost was of the Delta outfeed table hardware kit, it was a a long time ago that I bought it. There isn't much to it, just the hardware, so it probably was reasonable.
CharlieL (a/k/a Chuck in ND) is trying to get himself banned from the board again because he just can't resist picking fights based on his preferences for tools.