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Breaking down long lumber for projects

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Breaking down long lumber for projects

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

Some people have dedicated a shop wall to a chop saw of some sort and lumber supports for rough cutting long boards into parts for projects. I don't have a place to set up this arrangement. Over time I have realized that for my work it would make no sense to do so.

I have two vises on the bench where I can lay lumber as log as it gets. The overhang is supported by a stool and cuts are made with hand saws.



For 4/4 lumber I often use a hand saw sharpened for hardwood. It took just 30 seconds to cut a length from this board to use for vertical posts in the corner cupboard.



For 8/4 lumber, and often 4/4, I use a buck saw. Once lengths are down to about 4' I cross cut on the table saw. Only a few broads are cut this way even for a large chest of drawers. The time difference between this way and a chop saw set up is insignificant for the number of things I build in a year.

Doing these rough cuts is an opportunity to practice hand sawing which pays off in other parts of a project. And it is a lot quieter and dust-free. I find the noise of a chop saw particularly bothersome.

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Re: Breaking down long lumber for projects

Barry Irby

I have a RAS and a Chop saw. I bought the RAS when I was about 16, they were all the rage in the WW magazines. It didn't take long to learn that having one tool to do everything was a bother. As soon as I got out of college and my Dad's basement I acquired a TS, Shaper, Jointer, and a DP.

I just realized I seldom use the chop saw. Wonder if it is the noise it makes? The Shaper, chop saw and RAS are along one wall and share a fence. The shaper fence moves, but when not in use, it stays lined up with the main fence. The top of the jointer fence serves as a support for long cuts on the RAS.

Can't remember the last time I used my handsaw. That may explain my dovetails.

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Mark Nowicki

I have set up my shop (single garage) to take advantage of its length.

With the length of the bench and the radial arm saw table combined I can easily handle 16 footers, usually with a bench hook and a handsaw

(In the shop today, making spice racks for my wife.)

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMBN8jxcznitk6inyQPvssTfc9H1rOVjai5-kL_b5YmisgojFhoDgvuccR9-ySqiA?key=Sm8xSlRXQlBOQ09YVnNicmlGMWFxMXNRbmpXVTd3

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Ellis Walentine

Thanks for the inspiration

Ellis Walentine

I've just moved out of a 2,400 sf dream shop to a one car garage less than 1/10 its size. Your resourceful layout gives me hope.

Question: How do you rip lumber? Or, is there a tablesaw hidden in there somewhere?

Ellis

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Re: Thanks for the inspiration

Barry Irby

Ellis, I have been working out of a one car garage for forty years. My TS is set about six feet inside the overhead door. That means it is just over 16' from the front wall. So If I need to rip something long I open the overhead door and extend it out. Sometimes it comes back with rain or snow on it. About 90% of it can be ripped without opening the door. Sometimes I rip half way through a piece and turn it around to finish the rip.

On the side of the shop with the RAS and chop saw, I can use the same technique. The overhead door is close enough to the wall that the fence on the RAS is far enough away from the wall that things can extend outside if necessary.

A small shop is a challenge. The planer sits on a mobile base. Boards being planed pass under the left wing on the TS. The top of the planer serves as an out feed table for the bandsaw. The Performax sander sits on a low cart under the right wing of the TS. Lots of spacial geometry in the set up.

I just put together a head board for my son's bed. It's 6'4" tall and over 7' wide. Looked like an aircraft carrier.

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Re: Thanks for the inspiration

Mark Nowicki

5/4 or thinner stuff is ripped with a track saw, thicker stuff with a bandsaw.

I have a table saw, an INCA. I am not ashamed to admit I enjoy collecting tools equally as much as using.

Added a few pictures to show router table bandsaw and table saw in line for a long rip. In my case, given the type of woodworking I enjoy, only the INCA is needed as an outfeed table.

The only machine on wheels is the jointer, bandsaw is lagged to the floor.

Once the stock is prepped I can easily clear a 8' by 5' area for assembly.

I don't stock much lumber or ply, purchase when needed, offcuts go in the burn pile.

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Re: Thanks for the inspiration *LINK*

Bruce, a MN Galoot

I know these guys were competitors, but here’s a good article I found inspirational.


Matt Teague’s shop

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Dumb question

Mike Farinella

I see a dust collection hose in there but no dust collector. Shop Vac?

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Kneale Brownson

Now I have replacement plans for the PC...

Kneale Brownson

...chop saw that has a bad switch that's no longer available!!!!

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