water vs alcohol
Michael van pelt
when using transtint dyes. do you prefer water or alcohol? thanks
Est. 1998 — 27 years of woodworking knowledge
water vs alcohol
Michael van pelt
when using transtint dyes. do you prefer water or alcohol? thanks
Depends
Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey
"NGR" or not?
Water's a easier to handle and blend, but it will pucker the wood grain and needs longer to dry well before the next stage. I actually prefer alcohol in a mini hvlp gun dialed back to a gentle mist.
Re: Depends
Bill Blasic
With TransTint I use Acetone as the carrier. It carries the dye deep and when I no longer smell it the dye is set.
Re: water vs alcohol
John in NM
Alcohol is my preference. I may try acetone, since what Bill said above makes some sense. I also have successfully mixed a little into oil by mixing with acetone first. Too much and the oil doesn't cure well - I think that's the acetone rather than the dye.
I use it for refinishing as well, and then I put it in lacquer thinner since that tends to "bite" any residual finish in the wood - usually I'm not going down to bare wood just stripping off old film finish that needs renewing and then tweaking the color coat underneath.
How do you apply?
Bill Tindall, E.Tn.
I can not imagine spraying acetone. The droplets will be dry before they hit the wood. Maybe this is desirable? The potential fire hazard needs to be considered in choosing an application location. In fact I am not understanding any advantage of using such a fast evaporating solvent.
Water is trivial to be rid of after application. Every shop should have on hand a hair drier. I used mine regularly. It will make quick work of drying after application.
I think application choice- spray, brush, pad- needs to be settled before thinking about what solvent is best.
I use alcohol
Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level
I like alcohol over water as it does not raise the grain as much and dries faster.
T.
thanks everyone for great advise
Michael van pelt
thanks!
Re: water vs alcohol
JL
A long while ago, I used a lot of reagent grade isopropyl alcohol in the lab for extractions. I had to concentrate the material I extracted - and ended up w/ a lot of distilled isopropyl alcohol that I couldn't reuse.
To make a long story short - I have a large five gallon jug of it. It is on the order of 99% pure. It turns out to be a reasonable vehicle for Transtint and other alcohol soluble dyes.
You don't have to worry about the grain and it works reasonably well. YMMV.
Re: Depends
Bill Blasic
I have no trouble spraying TransTint with Acetone with an airbrush but I also paint and drizzle.
Re: I use alcohol
Wood3rz
I do the alcohol over water too