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I need a new plane

Roy Anderson

>I need a jointer. I've been limping by on my Jack plane and that just won't cut it any more. I got a nice long woodie off E-bay but it is really a little too worn and I would have to repair the mouth before I got good results out of it. It is also tricky to set the blade depth. I admit, I'm a decadent modernist. I just have to lean on 1898 technology. I'm thinking about getting a bedrock. However, my projects are not large and I think a 607 might be a little too large. I was thinking about a 606, but I read the negative diatribe on #6's and 606's on the Blood and Gore site, so I wonder if I am morally deficient in thinking that a 606 is just about right for my needs.

Comments or guidance?

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MikeW

>Hi Roy--if a #6 fits your work, get one. I used a #6 far more than the #8 I had because of the scale of work I generally do.

B&G notwithstanding, a #6-sized plane has (and is) widely used and makes a great plane if it fits the scale. I had a sragent fitted with a Hock blade set up for ranker cuts and a LV #6 set up for finer ones. I used the LV as a smoother on larger tops as well.

Take care, Mike

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>You might also want to take a look at the HNT Gordon try planes. They're 18" long and can be used as general jointing planes. I like mine a lot.

Pam


HNT Trying Plane

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Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)

>I will support Pam's recommendation.

The standard HNT Gordon woodies are really easy to set up. PLUS Terry has just released a new series with a Norris adjuster. I have played with one and can say that it is very sweet. It even looks better in the flesh.

Best of all, they have superlative performance. The Trying Plane is a very useful size. My review is Linked below.

Regards from Perth

Derek


Review of HNT Gordon Trying plane

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paul womack

> I got a nice long woodie off E-bay but it is really a little too worn and I would have to repair the mouth before I got good results out of it. It is also tricky to set the blade depth.

If you post more details, and prefeerably a photo, people might be able to help your existing jointer sing for you.

BugBear

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Dave Mount

>There's nothing wrong with a #6 if the additional 4" over your #5 is enough increase in capacity to suit your needs. I guess my question would have more to do with how many planes you think you'll end up owning, and if you get a #6, how often you'll then be wishing you had the additional 4 inches of a #7. Unless you're really sure that the #6 will be the longest plane you'll want, I'd get a #7 next, then backfill with a #6 later. While the #7 may be bigger than you need for some jobs, it expands your total range more in the short term. And, while I'll probably draw disagreement on this, I think it's generally more workable to use a slightly longer plane for a job best suited to a shorter plane (e.g., a #7 where a #6 would do) than it is to use a slightly too short plane for a long plane job. My perception anyway. All depends on the work you're doing.

There seem to be different camps regarding handplane acquisition and use, including (but not limited to) the minimalists and the specialists. The minimalists might have only 2 or 3 bench planes and use those for a wide variety of uses. The specialists have many more, even multiples of individual sizes, with different setups on each (e.g. cambered and uncambered irons, fine set irons with tight mouths versus more coarse set ups). Note that the "specialists" camp is still distinct from "collectors", though one may blend into the other sometimes. I suspect, but do not know, that most of the #6 advocates (including several here) also have planes in longer sizes, they just like the #6 (or #5.5) for a lot of jobs and use it a lot.

Myself, I tend to not want to fuss a lot with the adjustment of a plane when I pick it up, so I tend toward having more planes with different setups. If you're comfortable getting a vintage plane into reasonable tune, then I'd definitely go the vintage Bailey route (I don't think I'd even bother with a Bedrock)in a #6 or #7 (or better yet, both) and see how you like the size. Not to suggest the modern high quality planes aren't exactly that (high quality), but I don't think I'd make that jump until you were sure of what you wanted. You can always sell the vintage planes for what you paid for them if you decide to go with a modern manufacturer later (though, it appears you can sell modern planes on eBay for close to what you pay for them also. . .).

Just some thoughts,

Dave

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Glenn Madsen near San Francisco

>supposing that Patrick was not entirely serious about his comments on the #6. I bought a sweet, new-old-stock #6 from Patrick, and like and use it a lot. There is a #7 in the tool shrine, a gift from the father-in-law of one of my sons, and a #8 there too, another purchase from Patrick. Each has it's purpose, but I use the #6 more than the others. Fits me better, I guess. BTW, none of these are Bedrocks, just old Stanleys, and they all do quite well.

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Gordon Milliken

>Ive got an 8 and use it all of the time. You'd be surprised how wide a range (including small work) of jobs can be done effectively with it. Of course, it is a bunch heavier, but if you are a hobbyist, it shouldn't be a big deal. My bench planes include: 3, 4, 5, and 8. I can certainly tell you that there have been jobs that I've been really happy to have the 8, and would been less happy with the 6, and think the 5 too small. Suppose it is more a matter of preference...

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Here's my .02 cents...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I go for a 7 or 607 what every suits your fancy. I think a #7 make a good all around jointer. I feel a #6 is some what short for a jointer. Besides with a #7 long boards are a breeze if the need ever comes up.

Anyway, you'll have all the bench plane numbers filled in soon enough ;^)

Well maybe except a #1...

Get that woodie up and running too, I've heard wooden jointers are the cat's meow.

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Jim in Burlington Ont.

Bought a #6

Jim in Burlington On

>It's a made in england stanley #6. Excellent plane. If your thinking of new I'd reccomend the LV LA Jointer.

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Recent thread *LINK*

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>You might read the recent thread linked below for some opinions on No. 6 planes.

While I use mine a lot, I'd be inclined to agree that, unless your work is normally limited to about 30-36", a No. 7 or 8 would be a better next step.


Recent discussion of No. 6 planes

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Tom Colligan

>I checked this add in the back of Fine Woodworking and spoke with the owner at length on the phone (while ordering a Jack :). He's quite knowledgeable and I believe he's on to something. At any rate, it's a worthwhile website to learn some contrary ideas about our favorite tool. Good luck with your decision. Tom


Blum Tool Company

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George Makowski

>Hi All, I have a #8 and a 22" woodie for longer jobs. I like the #8 for its weight and precision. Ergonomics may be a factor, I am 6' and about 190 lbs. It is useful on many small items as well as for large joints or surfaces.

The woodie needed a new throat and some cleaning to bring into shape, but I now use it more than the #8 since most of my hobby work is on snaller pieces. Latest items are a set of Thomas style wooden train engines and cars.

If you like a heavier tool, get the #8. I also would encourage you to restore your woodie. It is an intersting project and the results are wonderful. Once you do it you can repair any other woodies in reasonable shape.

Good planing, George in AL

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Moses Yoder in White Pigeon, MI

>Not sure what the others have written but for the money I would buy a new Lee Valley jointer plane. I have a shop full of Stanley jointer planes (okay, maybe just 3 or 4), none of which are straight enough and tuned up enough to joint a nice true edge. This is why I use a tailed jointer and a #605 to glue a panel together. Some day I will have that LV jointer, and it will be a #7 or #8 size. A longer plane will always work on short boards but a short plane will not work very well on long boards.

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