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LN 112 (cont'd): total satisfaction

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LN 112 (cont'd): total satisfaction

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LN 112 (cont'd): total satisfaction

Frank D. in Montreal

>Hi everyone,

I posted about a week ago on the comparative merits of the LN 112 vs. the LV version. Most replies were in favour of the LV, if only because of the screw to bow the blade, but I borrowed a LN from a friend and tried it out. I gave it a good sharpening and didn't roll a burr (that's how I sharpen my LV #80 cabinet scraper and it works very well). I am totally satisfied with the results. I didn't find it very difficult to set up either: I just set the angle of the bed at around 12 or 13�, layed it flat on some wood and tightened the screws; then I tilted the blade forward to around 15� and the shavings started coming out. I guess this is a gloat too because my friend sold it to me since he hardly uses it (got it at a friendly price! :)). I used D. Charlesworth's trick to hold the blade at 45� in my jig (see next photo).

Regards,

Totally happy Frank


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Re: LN 112 (cont'd): total satisfaction

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Re: LN 112 sharpening jig

Frank D. in Montreal

>Just a piece of birch ply held in the sharpening jig, then the blade is clamped to that.


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Re: LN 112 sharpening jig

Todd O. Cronkhite Native of Maine

>what a neat idea Frank, I'll have to file that one away in ye'olde memory bank. If I was you I'd subit this idea to woodsmith, and you just might win that Bridge City? blockplane that they award for the monthly top tip. Looks like a dandy plane to me.

Todd O.

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Re: LN 112 sharpening jig

Frank D. in Montreal

>Hi Todd,

As much as I'd like a Bridge City block plane, I lifted the idea from one of David Charlesworth's books on furniture making. Of course Charlesworth uses MDF and I use plywood, so I guess that's original ;). It would be kind of like that guy who made a homemade copy of LV's dovetail jig and won the prize in FWW's tips. Thought I'd put it up for those who don't have Charlesworth's books (excellent reading, BTW).

Thanks anyways though,

Frank

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Hey Frank a question...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I have the same jig (I think) it's an Ellipse or a cheap knock-off. Anyway my Hock blades for my Stanley 112 and 80 fit into the jig and I get a 45 deg. angle. Does yours? Am I missing something?

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Re: Hey Scott

Frank D. in Montreal

>My cheap knock-off must be really cheap (I think it's a Footprint but I'm not sure): it definitely won't open wide enough to take scraper blades (just wide enough for a #8 blade). I might start looking around for another one. I think Charlesworth has an Eclipse, and he mentions that it won't take a big scraper blade (that's why he gave the trick in his book...). Beats me, though, maybe someone with an Eclipse can tell us?

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another data point, and a mini-hijack....

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Mine is another Eclipse clone, bought ~8 years ago (no idea where); it is 3/16" too narrow for the 112 blade at its widest opening. I had forgotten the Charlesworth article, and was thinking about nailing up sharpening box of some sort for a spiffy new-to-me LN that I have come into; there just isn't enough meat on the stone for me to hold that high an angle freehand.

Mini-hijack; any comments on bevel angles for 112s? Searching here and the BP archives, there is talk of angles from 45-75� being used successfully, but little about pro/cons. According to the instructions, the blade comes at 45� from the factory; how much of an edge life advantage is there to higher angles or a finish quality advantage to the default? Yes, I could find this out myself, but it would be nice to avoid the ~couple hours of regrinding and testing to find out.



/jvs

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Hijack continued...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I sharpen both my 80 and 112 Hock irons at 45 deg. I don't use a hook or burr. Besides the jig I have bottoms out at 45 deg too.

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Re: Hijack continued...

John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Mine only goes to 45, too--might as well keep it there for now. Also, I looked at the *other* side of the jig (trained observer), and it is a Somax No. 22. I do my #80 blades at 90� with a small, somewhat renewable burr to get two edges out of a honing session. Never tried without, but will next time that to see if it will cut at that angle.

Thanks!




/jvs

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Re: Hey Frank a question...

david charlesworth

>I needed the improvised holding jig as my 30 year old Eclipse jig was not wide enough for the 112 blade.

Have since discovered that many of the currently available copies etc. are wide enough.

David

www.davidcharlesworth.co.uk

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