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John in NM
I live in a rural county and know a great variety of people here. I know a fair number who do not intend to rush out and get vaccinated for various reasons.

Some have religious objections. I don't understand the rationale behind them, but then I am not a religious person so I make an effort not to judge.

The largest fraction just seem to think they don't need it. They have largely gone about their normal lives, making adjustments for reduced business hours and such, but have seen only minor effects of this virus on the whole. The two zip codes in which I know the most people have fewer than 70 confirmed cases between them, to give you an idea of the context here and why it may not be viewed as such a big deal as in the cities.

Incidentally, the preceding group is also the most open to being convinced to change their minds on the subject.

A few outliers have political objections, although personally I think those people and their corollaries on the opposite pole consume far too much monotone media to be objective on the subject, or really most subjects.

One I know from my former work is a rampant, and I personally think bat guano crazy, conspiracy theorist. I rapidly changed the subject whenever he started on anything that could lead to his enthusiastic recital of some dopey theory or another.

Everyone I know personally who has had it has not had a serious case, and I can only suppose that serious cases are too abstract for a lot of people to take seriously if they don't witness the effects personally or at a single remove. I can understand why they would view it as about as big a deal as a flu shot and miss the bigger picture. Its not like polio, which had constant reminders in the form of both neighbors and public figures suffering from its long term effects.

I've also noted for many years now how hostile people are to ideas that they do not hold themselves. Probably half the people I know who resist the notion of vaccination act this way, as well as a greater proportion of those who think that it should be mandatory.

My own view is that these vaccines are an amazing accomplishment, being developed with such speed and success. Understanding just the basics of how they work as opposed to traditional vaccines is enough to understand that there is zero chance of the vaccine infection sometimes seen with some traditional vaccination methods. From a point of view such as my own, it is irrational to refuse it, but then I see a lot of irrationality in everyone and can only suppose that others see it in my behavior as well. None of us are robots so it is only practical to make allowances for whatever our neighbor's personal crazy points are.

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And that is the key
Should have told him...
The question is...
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Why
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Vaccination is not a personal choice.
I disagree...
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There is no greater good...
Hold the phone...
Extreme examples illustrate concepts...
Spare us...
Happy to... that bit is at the bottom of the post.
[ADMIN] I think we've made our points
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your claims are flawed
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Do you see any need to keep
This is on the mark
death vs age data
Regarding Ben Franklin’s quote
Small wonder...
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worse.....
That is worse alright...
Orange Julius, after?
Never was rich enough..
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I learned for the first time today..
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Lemme guess...
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Case closed
More false equivalences
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Room for optimism...
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Some further good news...
Update...
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ASAP
I will get it as soon as it's an option
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There's precedent, and memory is fleeting
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That will be the issue...
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Balderdash
More *LINK*
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Not so ...
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Of course...
some clarification needed here
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Cards on the table
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Decisions and proof
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What is the point? ... *LINK*
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Your list of "approved" sources, then
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common misinformation
for example
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Ewwww, that was bad!
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