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Testing three chisels..

David Weaver
I've sold most of my "brand name" chisels, so I can't compare sorby or LV, etc.

What I do have is a very hard later set of ward chisels and the file chisels to compare to.

The ward chisels are probably the best (light weight, too) bevel edge chisels I've ever used and they chip only a tiny amount. In comparative work against the now gone AI chisels, I'd say they're slightly better than ashley iles.

The file chisels are right on their heels, and for some reason, feel easier through wood these are just freehanded and unicorned, so it's possible that the ward chisel edge is slightly steeper making the difference).

The 52100 chisels that deflect are softer than both, so the comparison isn't possible to make - the two harder chisels hold up better in really heavy malleting. So 52100 fooled me so for because you can mallet some and pare with the corners, but when you get really rough, they need to be brought up to the hardness of the other chisels (potentially).

It'll be a little while before I make another set, but what I can tell so far is that all are usable chisels and ...well, I have no favorite. I like how nicely the 52100 forged and worked and should've used them a little more at higher hardness before tempering them back some, but the file still have a feel on the stones and in the wood that is more dry and since they don't deflect, when bits of the edge leave, it doesn't feel like much. Hopefully, leaving 52100 harder will remedy its desire to hold up while deflecting (as in, even if the damage looks relatively similar, chipping with vacating edge bits feels sharper and easier through the wood than deflecting....

the other surprise here is just how good a late set of ward chisels seems to be (no clue what they're made of). late for hand ground bolsters (but they don't have round bolsters or anything - I think chisels that late for ward went softer - I had a set of showy firmers at one point with a round bolster and they weren't the same).

All of these chisels would hold up fine malleting stuff like pine, cherry, walnut, etc, but in the maple, the file chisels feel sharpest and the ward chisel subjectively looks the best after a beating).

Using 1/2 inch chisels with a mallet ( the unicorn article has 1-inch chisels , so these are being hit harder per lenght of edge - intentionally).

Messages In This Thread

52100 experimentation continues *PIC*
same chisels. *PIC*
Re: same chisels.
The reason for the choice...
Re: The reason for the choice...
Better than O1
relying on the charts...
caveat on my sharpening perceptions..
Re: caveat on my sharpening perceptions..
Re: caveat on my sharpening perceptions..
Thanks!
for the non-metal folks..
"through hardening"...
Re: same chisels.
Re: same chisels.
Re: 52100 experimentation continues
These get a trip to the freezer...
Re: These get a trip to the freezer...
if it's like the machine areas...
Maybe toughness *isn't* .....
Re: Maybe toughness *isn't* .....
A stake in the ground is needed
Re: A stake in the ground is needed
There's an absolute property..
optimizing hardness and toughness
Discussion and personal value
now I am confused more
Re: now I am confused more
Re: optimizing hardness and toughness
Thank you for the search results
Testing three chisels..
re-do with one of the (52100) chisels
question
Re: question
26c3 mule...
For those like me unfamiliar with 26c3
Re: For those like me unfamiliar with 26c3
Re: 26c3 mule...
Re: 26c3 mule...
Pictures
pics... *PIC*
(looking back at those four pictures...
When work pressure lets up some,
It'll look the same...
Re: pics...
Re: pics...
Deflecting vs. letting go
I think that's pretty much it...
Re: Deflecting vs. letting go
Re: Deflecting vs. letting go
I didn't check with a metallurgist..
26c3 pictures vs. ward later...
not that much later...the 26c3 *PIC*
Tempered to 380F? *NM*
Re: Tempered to 380F?
and the ward *PIC*
Request
Sure...
Temper temperature...
too much?
Re: Sure... *PIC*
Re: Sure...
David's knife
Re: David's knife
short follow up thought....
Re: short follow up thought....
Re: short follow up thought....
Re: Sure...
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