Well to date only 343 people have read John Lucas post on slicing vs scraping and putting the categories of cuts and tools in perspective. This is important stuff. I am thrilled to see it get out there. John, how about an AAW article so everyone can hear the truth. There are options. There are different results. Take whatever path you desire(and the consequences). They all have their plusses and minuses. But that thread clears up the confusion and sheds the light of day on a very complex topic. Not only Johns eloquent dissertation but all who chimed in from differing perspectives show the facts accurately. So often emotions and loyalties can get in the way and cloud the issue.