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Derek Cohen (in Perth, Australia)
Japanese chisel steel - even at the cheap end - offers a level of performance that Western chisels struggle to reach. I purchased a few Matsumura chisels about 20 years ago, and they surpassed the Witherbys and Bergs I was using at the time. A few years later I came across four 1980-vintage Koyamaichi bench chisels (dovetails style) on the UK eBay, and grabbed these, having read glowing reports about them in an article by David Charlesworth.

I recall a discussion with Stew (from Tools from Japan) around that time that, where Koyamaichi were not for sale outside Japan, Matsumura were not on sale in Japan, and were an unknown name there.

Comparing the two, the Matsumura were fairly brittle, and they remain the only Japanese chisel I have ever chipped. They were sold and replaced with a few more Koyamaichi, when these became available.

The Koyamaich are superb chisels, and retain their edge exceptionally well. I used one when comparing chisels chopping with different steels, and they were superior to PM-V11, which they beat into second place, and both just streets ahead of A2 and O1 far in the rear.

My paring chisels are slicks by Kiyohisa. These were a 3 year wait a decade ago, and now I believe this has stretched to double that. They do not look particularly special, but they are amazing. The steel does not seem hard, and they sharpen so easily. Yet they take an amazing edge and hold it forever - so it seems. Have I used "amazing" to describe them? :)

It is important, when discussing Japanese chisels, to mention that they are used differently to Western chisels - especially the bench chisels, which are designed to be worked with a gennou/hammer. But that is a topic for another day.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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