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David Weaver
I don't see anything where I suggested anyone not do what they and their doctor were comfortable with. This is far beyond that.

It's a little reassuring to me that after I brought all of this up, an ER physician and Harvard staff physician more or less said the same thing - should we be doing more analysis about whether or not blasting away with boosting is the right idea.

You'll note that I also mentioned that we'd like to see confirmation of the israeli study, and in combination with a piece of data I showed above (59% of hospital admissions for covid in israel are fully vaccinated - a lower rate than the unvaccinated cohort but not minimal) could still fit together (no information provided in the israeli release - of course - about individuals unvaccinated but who had covid or vaccinated and also who had covid vs. just vaccinated). Israel will be giving us booster data soon - and we will have our own.

There's nothing scary in any of this, nor is any of it a suggestion for anyone else. We're waiting and seeing at this point. I'm somewhat surprised that nobody else thinks like this - it's not an "i'm thinking because I'm going to take an action outside of my own door", because I'm not - it's a supposition of wondering if we're acting to act because that feels right or is policy coming from a longer-term strategy (we don't know).

For the time being, our hospitalization data is better than israel's based on what the CDC tells us, or at least as good and being sliced and diced a different way (but our unvaccinated cohort is larger).

No clue why the pondering would be off limits for anyone who studies other population data sets and how they change over time.

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OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Ditto *NM*
Re: you guys are welcome...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Agree...
Re: Agree...
In short, probably not worth it...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Nomenclature....
Re: Nomenclature....
Yeah...
the last part is often lost...
My dad is 73...so is my mother...
Re: My dad is 73...so is my mother...
I think at 15 months shy of 90...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
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Vaccination vs. Get-the-disease
Wrong start here....maybe I wasn't clear...
A bit wider picture
I think the study data ...
Re: I think the study data ...
Re: I think the study data ...
His point is pretty clear...
Recorded vs. actual Covid deaths
Absolutely
excess mortality...
Still missing the point..
Pfizer data
I think.....
Re: Pfizer data
Thank Goodness...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Interim Parts vs. Outcomes
measuring the outcomes...
Thanks for a good discussion... *NM*
Re: OT -How(!) memory falters with time
Isn't it amazing?
Re: Isn't it amazing?
Re: Isn't it amazing?
The overall response ...
Re: Not So Amazing, Rather Simple
some of us...
clarity is needed....
not to mention..
That is a distinctly modern effect....
One of the hazards of discussions...
I'm not surprised....
Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
Re: Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
separately..
Re: separately..
Of course.....
Re: Booster versus ... Seminal Work
you're right...
Re: Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Hi, Johanna...
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
It bothers me less...
Frankly...
Frankly...
How differences can arise
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:( *NM*
Re: Well said
Re: Well said
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To be fair...
Isn't this how we got here?
This was my point from the outset...
Ditto. *NM*
Re: Frankly...
Re: Here are 30 000 reported side effects
Doesn't
The problem
Re: More Bridges! Was: The problem
I will provide more details
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Will post
Re: Will post
Re: I will provide more details
Does roofing count?
we love..
Unfortunately....
Re: OT Doesn't
Well said...
pfizer data and persuasive...
Where did these data come from?
File and preliminary israeli data
Re: pfizer data and persuasive...
side effects...
Re: pfizer data and persuasive...
at 81...
FDA says no to widespread boost
Re: FDA says no to widespread boost
Alternate link to FDA actions
A good conclusion!!
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