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David Weaver
i'm happy to report I haven't gotten bronchitis in two years!

(not that anyone cares, but I'm pretty pleased with that!). I started reading NIH studies on my own when covid started, because I wanted to see what was tied to the worse outcomes (read, I didn't want to die, I didn't want to become a morbid case, and after those two, I really didn't want to get covid at all). I found some interesting informaiton that was never communicated to me previously - that there is a statistically significant increase in respiratory infections (This is pre-covid, not sure if covid is included) with a mean estimate of a factor of 4 when taking the trivalent flu vaccine. The confidence interval is wider that I'd prefer, but it's 2 stdev significance, regardless.

Respiratory illness may be no big deal to most. A day of coughing for me for any reason (coughing or sneezing) has better than a 50/50 chance of triggering 2-3 weeks of bronchitis. Around March last year when I learned that, it also became an exceptionally poor time to walk around for several weeks with a spastic cough.

There's a lot out there for us if we're willing to use it well, and just as it's potentially the case that the folks you mentioned will have a much better outcome in the long term even if not the short term, there's probably a significant chance that my lack of flu vaccine has nothing to do with not getting bronchitis (I will, of course, be tracking this - as my cases of flu in the last 20 years vs. bronchitis are probably about 30 to 1).

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OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
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Ditto *NM*
Re: you guys are welcome...
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Agree...
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In short, probably not worth it...
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Nomenclature....
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Yeah...
the last part is often lost...
My dad is 73...so is my mother...
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I think at 15 months shy of 90...
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Vaccination vs. Get-the-disease
Wrong start here....maybe I wasn't clear...
A bit wider picture
I think the study data ...
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His point is pretty clear...
Recorded vs. actual Covid deaths
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excess mortality...
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Pfizer data
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Thank Goodness...
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Interim Parts vs. Outcomes
measuring the outcomes...
Thanks for a good discussion... *NM*
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Isn't it amazing?
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The overall response ...
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some of us...
clarity is needed....
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That is a distinctly modern effect....
One of the hazards of discussions...
I'm not surprised....
Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
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you're right...
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It bothers me less...
Frankly...
Frankly...
How differences can arise
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To be fair...
Isn't this how we got here?
This was my point from the outset...
Ditto. *NM*
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Doesn't
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Does roofing count?
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pfizer data and persuasive...
Where did these data come from?
File and preliminary israeli data
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side effects...
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FDA says no to widespread boost
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Alternate link to FDA actions
A good conclusion!!
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