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Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
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I'm not surprised.... ()

Wiley Horne
Hi David,

True story from my extended family….happened in the past week:

There’s a wife, a husband, an 18-month baby. Husband and wife are double-vaxxed.

Dear friend of the wife is getting married. Prospect Park, Brooklyn. Wife wants to go. Husband says no, it’s a crazy risk. She talks him into it, they go.

Two days later, groom calls to say he’s got covid. Delta breakthrough apparently. Day or two later, wife is sick—positive for covid. Not a hospital case. She quarantines herself, husband taking care of baby (and furious). Two days later, baby has covid. That’s where we are this minute.

ANALYSIS:

1. Bill Tindall said a profound thing above: he got the Pfizer shot because Pfizer said it would keep virus out of his nasal packages and lungs.
2. If you’re double-vaxxed and get a breakthrough case, you will have virus incubating and then shedding for a time, even if you’re not hospitalized.
3. Example: Wife in this case double-vaxxed, incubated, and shed virus to her baby.
4. She will likely end up in the super-immune cohort.
5. But the baby is already collateral damage to her superimmunity, however his case resolves. Let alone the deep misery of getting thru this, even in best case.
6. Back to Bill T: avoid the incubation/shedding that goes with acquired immunity; get the booster when available to keep the virus from incubating and shedding to those nearest you.

Wiley, friend of David

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OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Ditto *NM*
Re: you guys are welcome...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Agree...
Re: Agree...
In short, probably not worth it...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Nomenclature....
Re: Nomenclature....
Yeah...
the last part is often lost...
My dad is 73...so is my mother...
Re: My dad is 73...so is my mother...
I think at 15 months shy of 90...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Vaccination vs. Get-the-disease
Wrong start here....maybe I wasn't clear...
A bit wider picture
I think the study data ...
Re: I think the study data ...
Re: I think the study data ...
His point is pretty clear...
Recorded vs. actual Covid deaths
Absolutely
excess mortality...
Still missing the point..
Pfizer data
I think.....
Re: Pfizer data
Thank Goodness...
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Re: OT - the Delta and Booster Thing
Interim Parts vs. Outcomes
measuring the outcomes...
Thanks for a good discussion... *NM*
Re: OT -How(!) memory falters with time
Isn't it amazing?
Re: Isn't it amazing?
Re: Isn't it amazing?
The overall response ...
Re: Not So Amazing, Rather Simple
some of us...
clarity is needed....
not to mention..
That is a distinctly modern effect....
One of the hazards of discussions...
I'm not surprised....
Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
Re: Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
separately..
Re: separately..
Of course.....
Re: Booster versus ... Seminal Work
you're right...
Re: Booster versus no-booster for the vaxxed
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Hi, Johanna...
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
Re: OT - COVID shots - one more thing
It bothers me less...
Frankly...
Frankly...
How differences can arise
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:( *NM*
Re: Well said
Re: Well said
(Message Deleted by Poster)
To be fair...
Isn't this how we got here?
This was my point from the outset...
Ditto. *NM*
Re: Frankly...
Re: Here are 30 000 reported side effects
Doesn't
The problem
Re: More Bridges! Was: The problem
I will provide more details
Re: I will provide more details
Will post
Re: Will post
Re: I will provide more details
Does roofing count?
we love..
Unfortunately....
Re: OT Doesn't
Well said...
pfizer data and persuasive...
Where did these data come from?
File and preliminary israeli data
Re: pfizer data and persuasive...
side effects...
Re: pfizer data and persuasive...
at 81...
FDA says no to widespread boost
Re: FDA says no to widespread boost
Alternate link to FDA actions
A good conclusion!!
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