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David Weaver
>>Discussing which steel gives the best surface is also kinda fruitless - at the end of the day it's more about sharpening schedule than anything else.<<

Sort of for the second part. For the first part, it really doesn't matter what the details are if someone finds what works and just goes with it.

I think we've mostly solved geometric edge bolstering in the last couple of years, so what the steel is becomes even less important. What's the point of the edge bolstering? To avoid defects.

Which is where time is really wasted, and not so much on abrasion resistance or something like that. For the average person, if an iron is too soft or too hard, they will not learn to accommodate it (and does it matter if they can find another iron that works with their routine?). I don't think so.

But uniformity is the key. I didn't remember until late yesterday that George said something similar to me about 10 years ago, describing hock irons as too hard tempered and "not having as good of edge life" or staying sharp as long as something less hard. But what he mentioned is that they will nick and spoil a surface, so edge life wasn't a planing contest or "until the plane absolutely can't be used any longer". So add George to the list of people who have noticed the same thing (I forgot), and equate it to wasted time.

Where I get lost is when Bill gets on a rail and talks about things being legitimate or not. We're all doing things that have no real economic value for time spent. They have economic value, sure. My daughter wanted a loft bed last year. Nothing under $2400 was satisfactory to her, and the bed that she liked (that was something like $3K before freight and mattress and box spring), looked like something lovely in a magazine, but it also looked like if you looked closely at it, you'd find a lot of termite barf and such.

If I was really looking to go cheap and fast, I'd have looked at facebook (something i don't do) and craigslist and waited until a bunk bed was listed for $100 (one that was $2k to start). We probably all need a lesson if we aren't filing tax forms following the things we make and think there is some kind of credible reason that we have to make them or make them a certain way.

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26c3 in a plane iron... *PIC*
So, what's the point if it doesn't... *PIC*
also- cost....it's cheap
Plane blade metrics
V11/XHP is sort of the woodworker's alloy
toughness not necessary?
see the end of my statement..
How visible?
Re: How visible?
nasty steel and very fine abrasive...
Warren and David
initially, no significant difference....
nicking?
interrupted cuts...
Re: interrupted cuts...
Re: interrupted cuts...
large nicking...
Re: large nicking...
There's good merit to carbon steels...
Re: There's good merit to carbon steels...
Re: nicking?
A different woodworking universe
slipped the lane...
Re: A different woodworking universe
Clarifying a point
I answered wiley's question...
Re: Clarifying a point
Why blade life is most important to me.
I'd have trouble.....
separately...
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comment from left field - how it ages...
Durable finish *PIC*
My experience has been the same...
Shellac works well for furniture too *PIC*
Water stains..
Re: Water stains..
question on lightfast...
Re: question on lightfast...
from Jeff Jewitt Q & A on ‘lightfastness’
Re: from Jeff Jewitt Q & A on ‘lightfastness’
discussion dye fading coming soon *NM*
Tuesday
You stated an obvious fact. The point? *NM*
Stay Tuned
I get where you're going, by the way..
where toughness is important.
where toughness is important- always
tempering question..
the answer that I'd take less toughness... *PIC*
Different chipping *PIC*
Re: Different chipping
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