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Re: Beauty is as beauty does (in my case)

eliot feldman
I find our discussions very interesting. It has taken me a while to gear up to your sensibilities. Going back to learning dovetails by hand, I see much merit in what you say, but I still have a couple of questions for you: Let's say student A makes them loose, and student B makes them tight. Apparently you heap abuse on B and ( to the extent that you can bring yourself to praise anybody) you praise A. But they both have to make whatever adjustments are necessary to learn to get them right. So why would A learn faster than B? Your point, I believe, is that if you are going to err on either side, it's better to be the A guy because after all, a dovetail is a practical joint, and at least A's will come together; whereas B's won't. Yes, on the other hand, B can still make adjustments to make it fit, while B just is left with an ugly joint. Again, your point would be that you are not talking about the joint itself--especially what it looks like -- but rather the process of learning to do the joint. In mathematics, something I really do know about, there are also two schools of thought about teaching. One school says just get them started with some formulas that work so they can at least pass their science and engineering courses. The other school tries to teach very basic fundamentals from the beginning so the student understands what's really going on. On your side of the argument , universities nearly always use the first method. When the second method is used, the students move along much to slowly. But, on my side, you can produce an engineer or scientist with the first method; but not a mathematician.

I think I am still with the school that tries, right from the beginning to do it as close to correct as one can.

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