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Subject:
are you missing a piece of essential equipment

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.
A marking gage? Set tail length and mark all that is needed. And I find a marking knife essential for marking pins, though others use a pencil successfully but it takes more experience to know how much line to saw away. And a divider makes for rapid layout.

"So nobody says,"Not too bad for the first time!" Not bad for the first thing you ever sawed without any on site guidance. But not at all good enough for something to actually use. Chiseling is ok but the wiggly saw kerfs will be impossible to transfer to achieve a pin that fits. You would have discovered that in time to correct this lack of practice if you started on a practice piece.

The tails are trivial. All that is essential is to saw straight and orthogonal to the face of the board. If the saw over cuts, or under cuts, or the angle is wrong it will not affect the function of the joint.

Now you get to the hard part. Now the saw must saw in some registration to the tail transfer line. How close to the line to saw can not be told by a video or text. It depends on the wood and other details. That is why I saw a practice dovetail when I start a new project that involves a dovetail. You are going to have to learn to saw straight and accurate and figure out whether to take the line, split it or leave it.

I don't know who Sellers is. I use the Cosman video when teaching but I tell students to skip the fiddly stuff. Makes a simple joint more complicated to make than it needs to be.

And now the most important advice you are going to get from any source. Stop posting dovetail pictures This joint is designed to hold pieces of wood together. Only in modern times has it become a means to show off one's skill.

Fret over getting praise from here because you made a joint that looks nice and you will always be erring on the side of tight joints. Too tight joints are hard to fix.

Practice until you can saw straight. Practice until you can get the pins to easily enter the tails without being undue sloppy. Saw to err on the sloppy side. Practice approaching perfection for the too loose side (nobody does it this way because they want to publicly flaunt their early results)A loose fit will hold. A too tight fit will be frustrating to fix. If the result holds the boards together- success. Worry about flaunting your dovetails in a few years, if you are woodworking for personal validation.

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first hand cut tails *PIC*
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Unsolicited suggestion
Success will be assured
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are you missing a piece of essential equipment
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Kirby is how I started
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Advice, praise and learning curves
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Art, fine art, and utter messes....
I agree with what you say...however....
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Re: Peter Follansbee... *LINK*
You missed the point
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Beauty is as beauty does (in my case)
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my experience with the schools..
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Flawed
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I don't buy it...
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My situation was unique I think...
Is there a psychologist in the house?
The outer frame; the border. *NM*
Thanks for playing, Wiley :) *NM*
I don't think it matters...
The kids...
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I'm waiting for...
Correct.
Where to start a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle...
Where do you start a 1000-piece puzzle?
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said better than I did *NM*
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Re: Unsolicited suggestion--Stud Mills?
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I don't do a lot of dovetails...
You provided some sage advice *PIC*
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yeah...
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Skew chisel *PIC*
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I did my first ones in oak... *PIC*
just read bill's later post..
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Slicks and makers
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Slicks and makers
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