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TomD
"Even if we take the "I knew it all along" chorus seriously, what does it prove? That you're smarter and better than all the schlubs on forums? Congratulations.

Feel free to reply, but I'm done with this topic."

I would agree with a lot of that, but unless I am having a senior moment at 58, I am pretty certain there were months of people saying this was new, which was odd given the source was industrial research for the purpose of standardization. I can remember attempting to refute the novelty claim by going through ever book I owned on woodworking, and all the main articles, the videos, in search of evidence this was common knowledge. And to my surprise it was less common than I thought it was.

Over the years there have been a variety of hotly discussed topics on planes, going back well before this discussion, there was a period of infill worship for instance. One of the common denominators around here were that people we were discussing this with did not have any background in Japanese planes. The curiosity on that score does not seem to have been peaked by the source of the breaker info being Japanese. But if one uses Japanese planes the issue is impossible to avoid. Which may have impacted some of us on the other side of things.

But anyway, an honest, or complete discussion would not leave out the certainty of unique breakthrough discovery that permeated this place and was not easily dropped, and proved very frustrating to some of us. If for no other reason than that the history is also important.

I think what it proves is that some of us had experience which is something you take from others, I make no claims to an original thought on this subject and it did show me some of my ideas on the history were also wrong.

I think an idea that still needs sorting out is how useful the knowledge on breakers is. In my work it has little impact, because I work with good wood. Or wood so bad sanding is inevitable. The breaker crowd is still in denial on this score.

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