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Mark Hennebury
Hi Warren, and thank you.

It would seem to me that anyone that used a handplane would figured out the chipbreaker simply from trial and error, just a desire to have it work better, some observation and analysis and some basic tinkering. I didn't realize that there was this big controversy, ignorance or disinformation.

But welcome to the age of dis-information. The internet where teachers are endless and knowledge is buried in the landslide of bulls**t spewed forth by the self professed Gurus who are little more than mass marketing machines cashing in on the new age of lazyness. I cannot believe how lazy people have become, nobody seems to want to experiment, observe, analyze and question anymore, the mantra is "google that Sh*t" no-one wants to figure stuff out, no-one wants to learn they just want to know the answer, immediately.

I recently attended a woodworkers get together and questioned a well known internet Guru, teacher, author, handplane expert, and to no surprise when posed with some pretty basic questions about handplanes, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights and had no answers.

If you want to learn about handplanes get a $50 one and 1000bf of hard maple and when you are finished planing it you will understand handplanes.

There were many people i "believe" that knew how to setup and use a handplane and that understood the chipbreaker.

I don't know how much i knew from my father or from school, probably quite basic instruction such as "set the chipbreaker closer for finish work " or perhaps "1/32" back" type of thing, but i do know that it was enough to get me started. I have a "curious type" of personality and a need to understand how things work, i have no interest in asking anyone and would rather take anything apart and tinker with it until i destroy it or figure it out. I have a bad memory, so i need to understand the principles.

A handplane is not a complicated tool and there are not too many things that you can adjust, if someone locked you in the workshop and gave you one and said figure it out and make it work, how long would you be locked in the shop before you tried adjusting the chipbreaker?

The people that are saying "no-one knew", are just trying to ease their embarrassment at not knowing themselves. Which is understandable, because i think that they should be embarrassed.

We all have a lot more detail available today down to the microscopic level, but the principals haven't changed.

The take away from this whole issue to me has been that people need to get back to tinkering with a desire to learn. To test analyze, observe, modify and experiment and learn.

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