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steve voigt
Dave, "unlikely" is a good word choice. Because one can't prove that there weren't loads of woodworkers, a generation or two ago, killing it with a close-set cap iron, just as one can't prove that there are no chocolate cakes orbiting Jupiter…but both seem pretty unlikely to anyone with a modicum of sense.

Here's something I should've brought up earlier (though I think you and I have discussed it before). To gauge the extent of common knowledge about the cap iron ten or twenty years ago, all we have to do is look at the state of commercial planemaking at the time. There was basically a whole industry built around the belief that a common-pitch plane can't stop tearout. Clark and Williams, HNT Gordon, and Steve Knight built single iron woodies with high angles and/or super-tight mouths. Karl Holtey, Konrad Sauer, Raney Nelson, and Wayne Anderson, built infills with same attributes. The two big companies, LN and LV, introduced bevel up planes, scraper planes, and high angle frogs. They both continued to make common-pitch BD planes, but there is clear evidence that neither considered the cap iron capable of stopping tearout (no need to recap that here).

So, is it really plausible that "everybody" knew how to use the double iron, but none of the planemakers knew, none of the gurus knew, none of the woodworking mags knew? I think we know the answer to that.

This summer, Don Williams stopped by my shop on his way back from DC. As we talked, it became evident that he didn't know how to use the cap iron, so I taught him. It took 10 minutes, tops. A week later he wrote me back to say he was getting straight shavings shooting out of the mouth, and planing ribbon mahogany like never before (he wrote this up on his blog, so I'm not speaking out of school here).

Now, what I know about woodworking is a small fraction of what Don knows, and he's been at it decades longer than I have. Again, is it really plausible that guys like Don didn't know about the cap iron, but somehow all these keyboard warriors did? Once again, I think we know the answer.

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