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Patrick Chase
I think that Warren's point is that nobody (not you, not anybody else) in that thread demonstrated any understanding of when and why BD planes might be objectively preferable. Lyn was hammering the "objectivity" and "scientific testing" thing every chance he got, so replying with "religion" would be rather odd if you actually knew an objectively valid response. Religion is by definition the domain of subjectivity and unprovable faith, so by invoking that you effectively claimed that there is no objective reason to choose one over the other, i.e. a pure question of preference, and in so doing betrayed your lack of knowledge.

I suspect that Warren picked that post because it's where the thread veered firmly into BU-vs-BD territory, and therefore a logical place for anybody to start when trying to understand the "state of play" at that time, which is what we're discussing here. While I'm sure you'd rather see your name in bright lights, it was a reasonable choice on his part.

My opinion based on looking at your past posts (not just that thread) is that like many people you knew that cap irons were supposed to prevent tearout by breaking chips, but you had nothing approaching the current understanding of what could be achieved or how. The only person I've seen who could elucidate that in the 00s was Warren, full stop.

I don't really have a horse in this race because I wasn't active at all back then, but from looking through those old threads I understand where Warren is coming from. He got beaten up for stating an unpopular opinion. Now that he has been vindicated there are people crawling out of the woodworks claiming they "knew all along", when in fact they were either equivocal (and invoking "religion" is a classically equivocal response) or on the wrong side of the debate.

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