Chuck Jones - West TN
...challenged people I want to join. I feel your pain. After about 6-8 I have not had one turn over yet. At the TAW symposium in 2010 Mark St. Leger tried to explain to me what I was doing wrong. Didn't help. Still can't do it.
You can find a copy of his handout at http://www.markstleger.com/. Follow link to "Articles and Handouts"