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Re: 5160 vs. 1095
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TomD
The ABS smiths are a really talented bunch, and one can learn a lot about heat treating and forging from them. But they have a quirky sense of what a knife should be, and it is not a good basis for woodworking tools.

The knife field suffers from primarily being overlaid on marginal activities (by today's standards) like fighting, survival, and hunting. A lot of tests are done in magazines. These tests were designed to test the knives in imagined drastic scenarios, but they have become an end in themselves. The use of knives is often repeating these tests. So they have created a feedback loop that is not rooted in reality.

I have learned a lot from these people's methods, but I would not try to replicate their results in woodworking tools, as they are not the same conditions I encounter in the shop.

Also, once you are making your own tools, you do not have to make use of commercial standards either. A plane blade costs me about 50 cents a square inch, and takes under 45 minutes to make. So that opens up a lot of opportunities that you do not have if you are buying tools retail. You have the tools to handle sharpening you would not be able to do in most shops, and you can adjust hardness if you run into any problems down the line. It is great to ponder what some ideal tool might be in some market I am not actually addressing. But that is not what being a custom maker is about. You can actually adjust edge holding/sharpening ease, to the woods you actually use. Though with a 2 hp grinder, sharpening ease is pretty much a non-issue.

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