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variations on the already done...

David Weaver
..there's nothing really new about this other than the use of the buffer, but I"m sure that that's only new to me.

But as you point out, it's kind of the same thing as other things other than the bits where it's not. Why the buffer? I couldn't tell you exactly- for some reason, the ease with the buffer is better, and the sharpness is higher than doing it by hand. I think the lack of conviction in the abrasive on the buffer just does a finer job in a few seconds than I can do much longer on a strop and there's never an issue with contamination. That's a productive laziness thing for me. Debatable (I wouldn't take the pro side) that it's really significantly different than just rolling the very edge by hand.

As to how it's different than a tiny flat microbevel, I haven't experimented with trying to dial in numerical little flat facets, but figuring out what's what probably wouldn't be hard.

Vs sellers? There's less primary and secondary angle behind the edge so the wedging is less. You're also working only a tiny part of the bevel by hand (the secondary and then the tiny line) and can chase it off with a regrind. I think most people will tend to make a fairly blunt bit of steel behind the edge with sellers' method (a large amount of it) though that's the fault of the method and not the user. I guess you could more or less point this out to be the same thing if you just drew a profile of the edge, picked an arbitrary spot and then drew a secant line eliminating any of the rounding not needed.

Knives may have brought me to this - I do the same thing (But by hand) with japanese knives - very thin bevel profile, enough strength at the edge so that they don't chip.

It's a little bit embarrassing to have my name stuck to it as I'm sure there are a lot of carvers who have done something similar over the years.

But the kicker (other than just rolling the very tip) that made me bring this up was using an incannel gouge and sorby chisel that were both sharper off of the buffer in a couple of seconds than I can ever get them by hand, and the cutting resistance seems less than an ideal single bevel that would hold up as well.

no good for planes, though.

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