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joelmoskowitz
I was taught to buy wood in the rough, let it acclimate to the shop and then mill it. I have spent days milling lumber by hand. (not for a bunch of years though - my home shop is now a bedroom) But I have never worn out a plane and never will.
But if you were correct then how do you explain the ready availability of early 19th century wooden planes of all types - EXCEPT bench planes. The most common planes for milling wood are by far the least available survivors. This is even more remarkable because bench planes sold in orders of magnitude greater quantities than any of the specialized molding, rabbet or other styles.
I happen to own I think one late 18th century bench plane - a very long jointer by Gabriel. It not only is unusable because of so much wear and tear the mouth was repaired at least once.

By the way I don't even understand why this is controversial. It's not even that unusual to find old metal planes in great shape except for some rounding (through wear) on the leading edge of the mouth. No big deal but things wear.

I won't argue that in the normal coarse of events a modern woodworker will have less wear and tear on their tools than someone from a century ago, if nothing else the workday to day is shorter. And of course irons wear faster than bodies - you sharpen all the time I would guess - how much material do you lose each time? .002"-.005" (I have no idea) but it adds up. just for fun: sharpening once a day (conservative if you are dressing wood) 200 working days in a year (working only 5 days a week + vacations we are living high) 200 x .002 = .4" every year. With a usable iron length of about 2" every 5 years you would need a new blade. (Obviously your numbers might vary the calculation was just for fun)

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