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David Weaver
.I bought the bronze LN 4 - as I recall, to have something to compare to when putting together infills. the weight of the bronze (and the stickiness of it - the softer the wood, the more stick it is and you have to wax constantly) is more like infill proportion in old planes than stanley smoother, and it's *nothing* like the weight of the plane you're testing.

What I remember is that at first, I thought the LN plane was much smoother as it seemed to stay in the cut without feeling much. But when I looked at the surface, what was occurring was that when either plane tore out, both did. But, i couldn't feel minor tearout with the LN. I could feel it in the stanley. It wasn't a performance difference, but a feel difference.

This probably makes them especially attractive to beginners - you plane through the tearout a little and can't feel it!!

Infill panel planes for some reason are very heavy (mostly) until they went away from rosewood infills. No clue why a spiers smoother may weigh 3 1/2 pounds and a 15 1/2" panel plane could be 8 - I guess it's assumed that you'll be doing heavy work with it.

In the wood that we have here (at least that we typically use), no amount of waxing can make an infill panel plane (or a stanley jointer) keep up with a wooden try plane, but you wouldn't want to size much macassar ebony with a wooden try plane, either, and it's perfectly tolerable with an infill panel plane or stanley jointer.

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Light vs Heavy planes
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I like tools from Brooklyn
Re: I like tools from Brooklyn *NM*
Infills in the UK
I'm glad you commented.
Weight Comparison
more infill weights
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initial fitting...
one more follow-up comment.
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rosewood
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now there is a pearl of wisdom
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what I've found...
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Re: Can't argue
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by the early 19th century
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It's not offered as ball court...
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I'm guessing on parts here...
I miss Todd Hughes' contributions too *NM*
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I think we're agreeing...
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Wood isn't indefinitely stable, either
Re: Facts, not assertions
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I haven't seen it....
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Truing Kanna
expanding on what jim said
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Coupla thoughts
different methods of lapping and the bump
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interesting that...
Note on a modern infill
konrad's planes...
new vs. old planes...
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Turnover, newbies and FAQ
comment on teaching
If you get my drift...
finding out who to listen to...
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I agree...
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Old history
Misprint?
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cultural thing...
Shops using mostly hand tools..
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Don felder's guitar...
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Not a positive contribution to the discussion
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Inertia and figured wood
Re: Jim, what is Osae-gani? *NM*
Osae-gani
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Note on fitting
biases for the maker...
Re:wedge fitting
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funny...
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At some point..
The experiment and conclusion are both confusing
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another factor
If you're trimming furniture...
The best case for heavy planes...
Re: reframing the issue
Friction, and more
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not the direction I went *PIC*
5 1/4
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