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Unfortunately, I don't know George...

John in NM
So I cannot ascribe any weight to his opinion. I've seen you mention him often enough, but I've no idea who he is.

I think you missed my point. Lee Valley, Hock, whoever, is not making irons for you. They are all making irons for thousands of consumers who like what they get when they buy one. They are following pretty conventional manufacturing wisdom when it comes to steels, which is in a nutshell, to maximize hardness without degrading other properties. The reason for this is that they don't want to appeal to experts only, they don't want their customers to have to be fantastic with a stone, or worse yet, one particular type of stone. They don't want to make one iron for smoothing and a different one for a jack plane, but then those are the same size and will confuse neophyte customers.

What you keep describing as your ideal is something no one is going to make and attempt to sell. Such a product would appeal to a very limited segment of the market - you and a few others.

However, I realize I am being pretty hard on you, and that is a bit accidental. I don't for a moment want to stomp on your enthusiasm for trying different irons, for finding them lacking and trying to find something that fits exactly the niche you want it to fit. I'm afraid that you are going to have to make your own, however.

I'm also reminded of my own predilection for specific knife blades - hammer forged carbon steel. I don't like stainless, and I don't like blades ground from 1098 flat stock. The best blades I've used were 1098 (or whatever) heated up and smashed. No idea why, but they seem to hold an edge better. Could well be my imagination too, but I stick with it, in spite of knowing the preference is pretty unfounded and probably irrational.

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super hard - and George's opinion
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Here's the thing...
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Even with a milling machine...
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Bill turned the wheel
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Steve Knight’s irons
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CPM-3V Elliott irons
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From Brent Beach's tests...
Standing on the point of a pin.
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Totally paranoid. I agree.
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