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More Pictures - Modern Vs. Vintage

david weaver
Not that this really proves anything, other than exactly what's shown in the pictures.

(Brian offered me space to post these pictures, but it's still easier for me to use the postimage site - I'm a bit tired - apologies if you don't want a Russian bride).

Total width of the photo represents about 2 1/2 hundredths of an inch.

Another picture of the Iles chisel that had the bubbles. I seem to have sharpened most of them out and can't find any of the big ones. Maybe it's just a spot thing:

After additional rehoning - fewer bubbles. Presume this is washita based on the lines (edit, a look at a larger picture and I can tell this was a translucent arkansas):

Footprint UK chisel (these are now Chinese made, i believe). Red acetate handle, delicate beveled sides. Really a nice chisel. No bubbles at the edge, but is that one at the top? I didn't rehone this, so there's a little damage at the edge:

I think tracked down a japanese chisel (not an expensive one, this one was one I got directly from japan in a set of ten for $80 (does that make it an $8 chisel?). This is after chopping a plane mortise. You can feel the damage at the edge and just barely see it with the naked eye:

No bubbles. Then what I normally do with these (since the mortising is a pretty rough process and a fairly large volume of wood) is 15 strokes or so on the washita. The edge isn't perfect after that, but it'll do another mortise and come back the same as above, and you can do this indefinitely.

Digging out some more modern stuff, an LN A2 iron honed on the washita (I wanted to see if I could see evidence of carbides not being cut. I can't, they're probably too small, anyway)


Bubbles (up the bevel and not at the edge those at the edge *do* look like large chunks....carbides?)!!

Patrick speculated that the washita may be pulling out carbides, I don't know is that's true or not. Maybe it is? I figure the voids are probably around a thousandth. I can't see them on the iron with the naked eye. So, I honed further with a trans stone:

Though it doesn't look that special, if you look at the evenness of the edge, you can see that it's very even. I planed with this later and the shavings were less than a half thousandth. I'd speculate they were around 3 ten thousandths of an inch. As much grief as oilstones are given for not sharpening A2, I'm not really seeing it. This sharpening process is much less time than the jigged "charlesworth method" that I started with on waterstones:

Moving on - "Wiley's knife", the fallknaven knife referred to elsewhere here. Don Ho approves!!

This is the factory edge. Quite interesting - a very steep tiny microbevel at the very edge (you can tell that it's steep because it disappears in darkness when the bevel itself is at the right angle to reflect), and it's nicely sharp out of the box.

That may lead some to wonder if V11 also has these voids. i didn't rehone this iron, and am not sure what I used last, but it wasn't a synthetic stone or it wouldn't look like this.

No bubbles on this sample. I'm not surprised by that. Very different post-honed look

And lastly, because so far, it appears that the modern stuff that's not forged japanese stuff contributes bubbles, I tracked down my oldest functional iron. A butcher iron that is probably from 1820 or so (guessing based on the maker of the plane).

(pardon the dark marks, I think that's fuzz or junk from wiping the oil off of the iron with my jeans).

No bubbles, though I did find some areas of prior corrosion that looked a bit like the voids in the above pictures. None of the above items have had any rust, though.

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