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Subject:
Planing and edge stabilization

Wiley Horne--So. Calif.
Hi Derek, Sir Wm. and all,

My take on Andrew's comment to the effect that planes 'can't get sharp enough', was that he was dealing with very thin veneer, like 1/32" or less, or maybe 1/16. When the veneer gets up to 3/32 to 1/8, it'll plane just fine (super sharp is assumed). See below on mini-chipping at the edge.

One thing I found when using a plane to edge joint or edge plane 1/8" satinwood veneer recently was that coatings of hide glue on the end grain, and shellac on the face grain, stabilized the edges against spalling off little chips. To explain: After I joined the veneer to make up either the main field or the cross-banding, I left a coating of glue on the edges as a sealant--if you don't do that, water loss through the end grain will cause the seams to open up (in our dry weather). Also, the bottom of the veneer was left glue-sized. In addition, I put shellac on the appearance face to protect against miscellaneous dings and dirt. When it came time to do the final edge planing prior to glue-down, it turned out that the combination of hide glue and shellac stabilized the edges very effectively against chipping. It planed dead clean.

Later when it was time to cut channels on either side of the edge banding for stringing, I was able to scratch clean channels cross-grain with a simple ploughing tooth. Started the cut down through the shellac and glue at a low angle. Did not have to use a sawtooth type scoring tool. In trials, I found the direct cross-grain scratch to be cleaner than the LN sawtooth tool cut--probably my technique with the sawtooth, but anyway that's why I went with the direct ploughing.

OT Note: In sawing the veneer, mostly I used a panel-type saw (convex cutting edge) against a ply straightedge. Once I bandsawed it cross grain, used the bandsaw to speed up a bunch of repetitive cuts, and in that case, it was vital to make those sawcuts in a sandwich between two pieces of sacrificial scrap to avoid major chipping (DAMHIKT).

Wiley

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