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Subject:
Discovery vs teaching
Response To:
Re: A challenge ()

Bill Tindall
Mark has correctly addressed the issue as teaching, and well said it was.

The Kato-Kawai video is about teaching something, not discovering it. I will say for the third time, for some still don't seem to have read or understood, the Kato-Kawia video was prepared for teaching. Again, for the third time, there is nothing in the Kato-Kawai papers that suggests that the cap iron effect was not well known before their work, which is focused on edge life and self sharpening. No where do they claim, nor has anyone else claimed except their detractors, that they discovered that a cap iron mitigated tear-out.

Hence, the only relevant criticism of the video is whether it is effective at teaching what a cap iron does, how it does it and about where to set it. I might add that the Kees video must be judged by the same criteria, is it effective at teaching. To this end, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ie the student. If you want to be positive spread the word about these videos. Or if you feel they are lacking make you own, or teach a class(as Mark does) or write a book or article.

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Death Knell of Woodcentral?
I, for one, am very eager to see....
I'm on it
Hope you have a great visit....
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It's been interesting watching ...
Re: The acid test
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I'm with Wiley here
Blood Boiling
Blood boiling
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Re: The man in the mirror.
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The easy way to sell . . .
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There's a workaround
Good idea, I'll try that in the future :) *NM*
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A challenge
Challenge
And a different challenge..
Very limited data
Looking forward to the challenge
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Re: Measurement vs feel
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Discovery vs teaching
Re: You make my case
Is such hyperbole really useful?
Re: Tautology?
Just logic
Re: The subject is a joke, as stated in OP
Yep, looks like I missed it...
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calling Steve Elliot *PIC*
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I think...
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Given what's now known *LINK*
Do you really "know" what you think you do? *PIC*
Correcting a misconception.....again
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sent *NM*
PS, it is on Elliott's web site *NM*
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Re: Death Knell of Woodcentral?
What I got from the discussion.......
How do we find videos without the forums? *NM*
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Re: Oh, beat the drum slowly and play the fife low
That's really funny :D
Both/and
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