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Re: Sharpening jig/grinding question

TomD
There are a category of issues that get fervently argued that have to do with the starting with some sort of rhetorical box. In this case bevel angle. If a person believes that a 25 degree bevel angle is straight from god, then there are variations that occur in various characteristics if you say have a main bevel of 5 degrees and a secondary bevel of 25 degrees. Could be good as with a certain knife, or piecing chisel format. Might be a weak edge if one was planning at dragging it through the wood at a 55 degree angle. Same deal make a hollow grind with a 1/4" stone (extremes are just for purposes of visualization, The arguments take flight at much tighter variations like 8" grinders, or bevels that diverge by only a few degrees).

There are a lot of variable, like are we talking about ease of sharpening the bevels , or durability, performance, etc...

In Bill's case, I don't see the issue if the angle divergence is fairly tight. If for some reason he has a big divergence, then I think it isn't a boutique question, it is just a the question of sharpening with secondary bevels which gets hotly argued all the time.

With plane blades what experiments I have done indicate one can do with a far smaller clearance angle than 20 degrees, as little as 5 degrees has worked for me. So in Bill's example, one could just skip to 30 degree, in this case a sharper edge, and then the whole issue would go away because even a 5 degree lower primary would still be 25 degrees, presumably acceptable to even some in the flat bevel society, and the micros would be more obtuse.

I didn't see the point in going into all the details he was, if he was just asking about secondary bevels, that is a simpler question. So I am assuming he is looking for an overlooked issue he might not have read 500 threads on. Which is why I threw out the bit at the end, just to be sure.

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Very well said. *NM*
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Razor hone questions
Sent you an email, Bill *NM*
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Two most useful sharpening tools you can buy
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Amen to the hand lens *NM*
Good points, well stated. Diplomatic, even. *NM*
recommend that lens again.......
Funny you should compare it with your B&L *LINK*
You bet, Bill. Glad you like yours. *LINK*
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at least sharp enough
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"Riding" hollow bevels on flat sharpening media
Whatever, but it's not inefficient. *NM*
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Which came first...
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didn't really answer my question
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chisel wear
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We have been discussing this topic for years
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Sorry, I don't run your tests on command. Bill? *NM*
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Smarm?! Hey, Bill, is this what you had in mind? *NM*
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LV's plane blades, as shipped are sharp. *NM*
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Yes, that's pretty much it
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